Tuesday, January 15, 2008

The Church Model for Environmental Groups

Not too long ago, I had an argument with another peak oil writer about what level political action on peak oil and climate change should proceed. I suggested that perhaps the municipal level was thinking too large - that what we need are neighborhood groups, he argued in favor of city levels. Now I'm not at all sure that this is an either/or issue - I suspect we need both. But the discussion was useful for helping me clarify some thoughts I've had about what might be needed to move the "peak oil" and "climate change" groups from their present role - as thinly spread "special interest" groups and towards becoming a larger, and more powerful network.

The fact is, historically speaking many large scale social changes have worked best on a neighbor to neighbor, very intimate scale, either instead of or in conjunction with larger scale practices. For example, food and gas rationing during WWII were being flouted until neighborhood pledge groups were started, and block captains became responsible for helping people adhere to new policies. The same programs were used to manage civil defense and volunteer labor groups. The reality is that top down management is very difficult without some micro-level programs to work with - which is why in times of war, women's groups, and other social and cultural institutions were always among the first groups mobilized.

Please understand, I begin this with no implied critiques of any of the response groups out there - on the contrary, I admire what all these groups have accomplished, and believe their work to be of the utmost importance. But there are several limitations to such in-person programs - first of all, unless you live in a population center, they are thin on the ground. The nearest such groups to me are 15-30 miles - an awfully long drive for someone committed to cutting emissions.

And such groups suffer from the same problems almost all political/special interest groups do - small membership and heavy burdens on the few people willing to do the work. If, in fact, we're in the process of sliding off the plateau, as the data suggests, we are going to need to get more people involved, and quickly. Moreover, these groups reinforce the notion that community is something you mostly create with "like minded" people who agree with you about peak oil and the Bush administration. But there's simply no chance that most of us are going to spend the coming decades working primarily with people who live 15 miles from us - we are going to have to get local - real local. That is not to say that I don't see the real and practical value of spending time with people who already "get it," or of devoting some time and energy to exchanging ideas about approaches with others in person, but our primary work must be local - perhaps on the municipal level, but if we're really returning to a foot economy, probably even more so at the neighborhood level.

So I began to consider what would be required to start neighborhood groups that might engage people within our existing communities, and enable those communities to start preparing for climate change and peak oil. And instead of looking at leftist community groups, I started by asking myself what the most successful social organizations are in my area - successful at attracting membership, but also successful at getting members to do their share of the work.

So far, peak oil and climate change groups have focused on the other people who have figured out what is going on. But right now, in the early stages of the crisis, there are simply too few people who have put all the pieces together. With another decade to prepare and teach, such an approach might work. With only a short time, the odds are against it. Compare this to churches or synagogues or mosques, who invite in nearly everyone in a given community, opening their doors as widely as they can.

If we are to have success we are going to have to use a different model, one that I call “the church model” – I say this not to be alienating to those who are not religious, but in recognition that religious communities have been far more successful at building community structures than any secular organization, and that if we are to create overarching community organizations that sustain us in hard times, and enable us to manage our communities in the face of crisis, we’re going to have to use a successful model.

The “church model” has three factors that are very different from groups like the Relocalization and similar groups I’m familiar with. They are:

1. Low Barriers to Entry
2. They have something to offer immediately
3. They have a plan and a routine for dealing with crises

The first factor is enormously important if we are to move beyond regional groups to the local level. Right now environmental groups tend to have a fairly high entry barrier – that is, you have to be fully aware of climate change or peak oil, and aware enough to consider working on these issues a high priority. Given that the majority of the country still considers these problems secondary to others, that’s fairly unusual. It is unlikely that in a crisis involving energy shortages, we’ll have the gas to drive the distances between usch groups. This means that we need to engage not a few aware people half an hour from us, but our neighbors.

How do we do that? We lower the barriers to entry. Instead of having “peak oil” or groups for the climate change aware, we have “neighborhood coops” or “community preparedness” groups. Robert Waldrop, founder of the Oklahoma City Food Coop, observes that he doesn’t talk much about “peak oil” with the people he works with – instead, he talks about how good local food tastes, and about how hard it is to make ends meet. The name doesn’t matter (except in the sense that a cool one would be helpful - suggestions?) – the common ground does.

We also have to lower political barriers - the truth is that environmentalism is associated with the American left. But the left has been too powerless too long to bring about massive social change in most regions. The nation is too politically divided for that. Thus, for these groups to thrive, they must avoid political purity tests - it doesn't matter whether your neighbor hates Bush or loves him. What matters is that the two of you have common ground in other areas. I don't deny this can be tough - but it is necessary. In some regions, the political idea of environmentalism will be a positive advertisement - in other places, the emphasis will have to be on personal security, autonomy, conserving what we have, saving money. We will need to be culturally flexible to create such a network.

The second and perhaps most important thing that such groups have to do is offer members an immediate reason to work together. There are some of us, who will do thankless work for long periods with no reward, but most of us join groups for selfish reasons – we want to find community, we want support, friendship, a platform for our ideas. We may also care about the larger world, but we get some gratification from being together and doing the work. Churches do this well – when people join a church, eventually they are asked to do their share of the work, to donate money and volunteer, but initially, they are offered something – friendship, a pleasurable worship experience, a meal, religious education for their kids. We need our groups to provide something now, not just hypothetical help in the future.

This is even truer because we are now in the early stages of a crisis, and many of the people who join with us may be undergoing personal difficulties and troubles. It is not feasible to have a “climate change” group that has no support or solutions for the victims of climate change now, for example. That doesn’t mean we have to be able to fix everything, or that we have to immediately have the funds for major investments, but we do have to be able to offer emotional support, a lift for someone out of gas, a casserole for a neighbor dealing with illness. We need to start where we are again. We also need plans for the longer term, but we have to start small, with the ordinary work of human exchange – I think too often, our community building efforts have ignored the importance of these small things.

Finally, such groups need to begin creating a plan for the longer term. How will people in your neighborhood get water? Who has space in their yard to grow food? How will you check in on the elderly and disabled? Where will the kids go to school if the buses stop running? Your first steps should take you towards your next ones – today, a carpool to get neighbors to the grocery store, tomorrow a bulk buying club and a Victory garden group to make fewer shopping trips necessary.

Right now there are municipalities dealing with some of these questions - the Transition Towns initiative, spearheaded by Rob Hopkins is a particularly inspiring example. But we need to have a model available for those who cannot get their towns on board, and we will need neighborhood groups to make door to door and ground level social change - that is, the issue is not "municipal vs. neighborhood" - the two enable one another. Particularly when we are talking about basic issues - where to get food, how to conserve water, how to care for seniors - policy level programming can't work without direct, grassroots, person to person networks. That is, it is possible to imagine a town instituting food rationing policies, but not possible for those to be adhered to without lots of practical help in cooking, obtaining supplies, protecting the interests of the powerless, etc...

I am, of course, ignoring the thing that churches and other religious organizations offer that peak oil and climate change groups probably can't offer - the link to G-d, or to G-d in oneself (depending on your faith). I am not claiming that such groups can take the place of churches, or that they can achieve what religious communities are often able to achieve. And yet, there has been a consistent tendency in many religious communities around the US to move towards faith-lite - religion with a strong emphasis on fixing your personal problems, rather than on submission to a larger belief (I'm making no judgement about which is better here). That is, to some degree, it seems that there are a lot of people seeking comfort and the chance to dance in a circle, rather than a deep relationship with G-d. Perhaps that community, or those who have a deep relationship with G-d and time for another community, might be engaged, as well as the secular and concerned.

It is worth a shot.

Sharon

132 comments:

David said...

Thank you *SO* much for this, Sharon. I'll be passing this one around & bullying people into reading it -- if only because it echoes what I've been saying a lot lately about how to start reaching out to people around us (here in my little corner of the world up the BC coast) who might be ready to start tackling some pressing problems in their lives, but aren't ready to be indoctrinated or educated about the technical aspects of what we're facing.

I've been very lucky in that my (minimally) paid work has given me the opportunity to create something very much along the lines of what you're talking about: every second Wednesday, at our new community centre, we're meeting at 5:00 PM until whenever to have a potluck and talk about food growing, plan activities and workshops, do some cooking and canning (as soon as the centre's kitchen is up & running), and spin off into whatever other activities people are interested in. It's off to a small but passionate start, with about 20 people at the last one, and I'll now start advertising it around town, and there's nowhere to go but up.

Food is such an obvious place to start rallying people, and luckily it's one area around here where a lot of people can see the threat to their own well-being, since we're isolated and small. If nothing else, this group (tentative name: Kale Force :-) ) will provide some kind of a base level of community organization around which other things might coalesce as needed.

It's hard for me to see how else to get started.

Anonymous said...

I love your insight about the importance of local connections. I agree that churches are a potentially important site for action. I also wonder about another social institution -- schools. I know that not everyone has a neighborhood school, but for those that do, it could be a sit for mobilization. Organizing people around the issue of school lunch might be one approach. Starting a club might be another (for example, a gardening club, or an environmental club that audits the school's waste/energy use). Such efforts would be useful for kids. They might also lead parents to get involved in something, or at least exposed to ideas, that they otherwise might not be.

Christine

Anonymous said...

A question. You say that government efforts to ration food and gas during WWII were flouted until neighborhood groups got involved. And you say that the same thing happened with civil defense and volunteer labor. I'm really interested in this. Could you give me some cites so I can read more about it? Thanks!

Christine

Anonymous said...

Sharon, I'm deeply ambivalent on one point: including people who have supported torture, spying on Americans, pre-emptive war, abuses of the Constitution etc. Not only should a just society shun such people, out of practicality we should keep them at arms length. A smile and a nod can go a long way to keep peace, but folks like that would be more likely to exploit a group when the chips fall, rather than support it. Character counts, especially in trying times.

Everyone else, welcome.

Kate

Anonymous said...

Kate, I don't think we can afford to write off people like that.

For one thing, there are a *lot* of them - of us, because as Sharon has said before, every time we fill up the tank we're saying that it's more important to be able to drive than for people in low-lying areas to keep their homes. A lot of the people who argue that, in abstract (to them) bombing and torture and people starving are okay, would never hurt someone at arms' length.

But more directly - there are a lot of people coming home from war zones, and we have to help them heal. It's damaging to do things you know are wrong, and it's even harder on the soul to do something thinking it is good (or at least justifiable) and decide later that it was wrong, or unjustifiable, or useless.

That's just as true of the men and women coming back from all the various fronts of the American empire as it is of former drug dealers and people who spent the last 10 years making money pushing fraudulent mortgages or a killing vision of marketed reality. We need everyone, and we have to make it possible for them to find a place in the new world that *doesn't* require killing, or stealing, or hurting people.

just ducky said...

Kate...I very much hear what you are saying but I can't agree with you. I know some people who honestly would give me their last bit of food but who unfortunately do believe in some of the things you mentioned. They are my parents. And as much as I disagree with them, I can't "win them over to a different point of view" by turning away. I also have been in desperate need of their help and have never been turned away by them. The bottom line is I am their daughter and they have always been their for me and my girls. We often disagree, but whenever one of us needs something the others are immediately there. I've also experienced the exact opposite from others. I've had virtually identical views with some people and when hard times came--they refused to help. Things I thought simple like watching my children while my father was in the hospital from a heart attack, trading a shift here and there at work--they wouldn't help yet they always asked (and received) help when they needed a babysitter or for me to take their on-call duties...You just don't know who you can really count on until the doodoo hits the fan...So, I wouldn't want to exclude anyone--you never know who'll surprise you...

Anonymous said...

I think you're overestimating how low the barrier to entry is for joining a church. In theory, yes, almost anyone can join. But in reality, only people who share the same basic worldview as the other church members will want to join. People leave or refuse to join churches all the time because they don't feel that they fit in. No group, not even a church, is really open to everyone.

Also, I'm afraid I have to agree with Kate. I've spent the last seven years listening to neocons call me a traitor and suggest I should be put up against a wall and shot. I take that very seriously. I don't trust these people, and I doubt that the sort of hardship that's coming is going to make them more tolerant and willing to work with "my kind". I suspect they're far more likely to want a scapegoat, and I really would rather not give them the opportunity to make one of me. I'm all for working with such people on joint projects with an agreed-upon goal and a time limit, but I simply don't trust them enough to work more closely.

Karen

olympia said...

I agree with rosa and just ducky (great posts, the two of you). I know way too many people who are liberal on paper and not in practice, and vice versa. There's also overwhelming evidence that people DO change- someone who approves of torture or the Patriot Act could simply be in need of some new informations. Opinions can be so fluid, and we can't afford to discount anyone.

Anonymous said...

I keep being reminded of the story of the person who picks up an injured snake out of pity. You may remember it ends with the snake saying,"But you knew I was a snake when you picked me up."

Everyone has standards of who they will and won't let into their vulnerable circles. I remember Sharon writing a post and explaining that willingness to work hard is key for her.

So Rosa, I'm not dismissing the healing that our soldiers need to go through. Our family has a long history of military service, and do not equate that with personal choices like advocating torture.

Just Ducky, I hear you as well and rejoice in your strong family ties. But I think the situation we are discussing here is creating new ties among by location, not family. I also agree that public affiliation doesn't always translate to action.

That said, there is such a thing as character and it is critical for forming the trust needed in these groups. Just as churches may rely on a set of ten commandments, I will have to have an ethical bottom line with those in my group, or I'll never be able to trust.

I'd like to bring up another idea, that of ethical exercise. Just as people who are physically fit get there through hard effort, so do those who are ethically fit. People who could not make easy ethical decisions when times are flush- I'm talking no brainers like torture is bad and women are fully human- are liabilities.

At the least they have poor judgement, are easily swayed by fearmongering, and are motivated by hate. If it hisses like a snake...

Now that everyone's recoiling, let me tell you how this plays out in my life. Among all my aging parents' children who cares for them? Yup, that'd be me- to the point of moving back across several states despite a brother living within an hour of them. How about caring for the local rabid Republican's children? They're over here all the time to borrow milk, play, exchange clothing etc. I have babysat on numerous occasions for nothing more than than a friendly smile. I give books and taught the last two to read.

I just don't make the mistake of relying on either my brother or these folks when the chips are down.


Kate

BLNorth said...

What Sharon says here is very interesting and reflects some of my own recent experiences.

I was raised by parents who were quite anti-religion and brought up on a diet of anti-church tirades: How much suffering, cruelty and hatred religions have spawned – How revoltingly corrupt most churches are etc.

Eager for some sort of “spiritual” grounding I eventually became a Buddhist, though I never found, in all my searching, an active sangha I was comfortable with. So now I would call myself a “Non-affiliated Buddhist.”

In my activities here in Baltimore I work with a number of loosely networked groups whose efforts rather vaguely cluster around the challenges of Peak Oil (Though most folks involved don’t seem to actually realize it and they blanch whenever my remarks hint at it!)

I am a certified Permaculture designer, the co-leader of the Baltimore Slow Food Convivium and I publish a monthly magazine called Baltimore Eats.

In recent months I’ve surprised myself by becoming active in a couple church groups as well. I just accepted a position on the Advisory Board of the Johns Hopkins Center for a Livable Future’s “Food and Faith” Project.

The Food and Faith effort grew out of the Center’s work documenting the terrible lack of decent food at any price in Baltimore’s poorer neighborhoods. When there are nothing within walking distance but convenience stores selling lottery tickets, hot dogs, chips and canned soup, tossing WIC coupons and Food Stamps at people will not result in better nutrition. Volunteers and staff at the Center spent months literally going door to door surveying in these areas -collecting responses from residents about their diet, how they cook, how they shop, where they shop and how they feel about their diet. Getting to know the people in the communities this way the staff came to understand that the local church was really the only “glue” that sort of held folks together, the place they turned to when in greatest need and the hub around which community social life revolved.

The first Food and Faith meeting was a very interesting affair! Pastors, rabbis and church leaders from all over the region were invited. It was attended by a multi-racial group from every denomination and socio-economic class and political persuasion, and me - the radical, Doomer, non-affiliated Buddhist... It was quite the group and the dialog that grew was stimulating and enlightening.

Yes, “Doomers” like us must speak carefully, respectfully and softly. But there is a growing sense of concern among these groups of very well intentioned people and a willingness to open to new ideas.

Last fall I used the parish kitchen at a suburban Catholic church to give workshops on pressure cooker canning. Now I’m also involved there in a series of educational seminars focused on food. They are calling it “Come To The Table.” I’ve been invited to speak on the principals of Permaculture and to break up the sod of their huge church lawn and to lead the parishioners in planting a Permaculture demonstration garden alongside the church! Pretty amazing I'd say!

I expect that all of us engaged here are only too well aware that thinking about “healthy food” leads inevitably to thinking about a “healthy” ecology – which leads to thinking about a “healthy” economy, which leads to considerations of fairness, truth-telling and justice… We’ve accepted that these concerns are all intertwined and that we are actually taking on a massive SYSTEM when we begin to address any single “problem.” Working with church affiliated groups I’ve seen that these connections are still barely made in most folk’s minds – yet, when one speaks softly, respectfully and non-confrontationally, you will find a receptivity to essential truths and those little “Ah Ha!” lights begin to sparkling all around the room.

Beneath centuries and centuries of hypocrisy, corruption, bigotry, war-mongering and generally destructive engagements, the core teachings of every major religion are essentially very positive and I’ve found that people of sincere "Faith” are willing to work and work hard to better their communities and address injustice when they see it.

Sharon is right I believe. The active involvement of our local churches is crucial if new systems of living and working together are to ever take root.

Lisa Zahn said...

binorth, bravo to all the good work you are doing. And kudos for being open to the positive impact of religious faith. I'm not especially religious these days, but I have had wonderful "peace and justice"-type experiences with church communities. I'm sorry for those who have not.

I think what Sharon is really saying, though, is not so much about the involvement of churches in the issues at hand but that those concerned about the issues should form groups similar to church groups in order to go about addressing things. That said groups of people should work in ways similar to how churches run things. It's an intriguing idea...

Lisa in MN

Aaron Wissner said...

Hi Sharon,

I heard you speak at the Yellow Springs conference a few months back. I was the one wearing the “LocalFuture.org” t-shirt and running a video camera most of the time.

I love this article. I think you are right on the money.

I’ve been working down the same line of thought, so seeing this all fleshed out is really great.

Over the weekend, I held the first event of an effort very similar to what you are describing. We kicked off with “What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire”. Free event, everyone invited, no political party affiliation, community focused, mingling time, shared dining opportunity, and it all worked out really well. This is set to be a monthly thing, on a Saturday evening so that people can still see their kids and get some sleep during the week. Next month, “End of Suburbia”, which is 40 minutes shorter = 40 minutes more discussion/network/community time.

We’re also launching a weekly group, with a weekly program. We’re starting with the Community Solutions DVD’s, David Korten’s for the first night. I think this weekly group will evolve over time. You spoke of the support aspects, and I think that will probably become part of the weekly meeting, although I can’t quite visualize that yet. These are Tuesday nights, but for only a couple hours, shorter than the big monthly programs. Again, free, open to the public, no political party affiliation, education and support based.

The plan is to use this group as a model that others can steal and/or modify for their own communities. We’ll be starting probably two or three more local groups like this over the next six months, using the “What a Way to Go” as the kickoff event.

Each group will be hosted by a trained facilitator, who is dedicated to a vision of a culture change to one of sustainability. This is going to be a bit of a trick, finding people with the time and vision to become facilitators. We may have to have some sort of a retreat weekend series, to get those interested up to speed on all the issues of climate change, peak oil, overpopulation, biodiversity loss, etc… a clear vision of a sustainable future… and knowledge of the types of things to move towards sustainability. The facilitators need to be able to answer all of the basic questions, like “what about the tar sands”, and such, and also have some organizational skills. So, needless to say, this may be a challenge.

We’re also planning the “International Conference on Peak Oil and Climate Change: Paths to Sustainability” for May. We are working on securing a venue, and already have several willing to be presenters on various sustainability topics. This will be a community building event, and also designed to find pre-facilitators, and to even introduce them to all of the issues and challenges of this cultural change.

I agree, it’s worth a shot. Thank you very much for the article, I’m sure I’ll be using it quite a bit.

Aaron Wissner
Organizer
Local Future Network
aaron@localfuture.org

Joanne P said...

Here in a neighborhood of Los Angeles, we've had such a group for about 2 years. www.EnviroChangeMakers.org Our group is a combination of secular environmentalists and people from a few faith communities in the local area. We're about to publish a small booklet about how we do it, should be available later this spring.

J Poyourow
Co-founder, the Environmental Change-Makers

Anonymous said...

Found this via energybulletin.net. What a joy to find such a number of sensitive, creative, informed people! I shall study the whole thread very carefully, because I'm there too in EVERY SINGLE attitude AND story that came up - like you're not just different people, you're all parts of me... contradictions and all. I'd like to warmly recommend you to visit our UK website. Read about "Transition Towns" which started here but is now growing VERY fast and has gone global.

Coming out of Asperger Syndrome, it's been far easier to build our website than to build a local group, but that's coming, perhaps with the help of inspirations received here too...

www.greenworldtrust.org.uk

Anonymous said...

Sharon, thanks for the article.

The broadening of the base is critical.

I think it is great to use existing institutions which are inclusive and neighbourhood based like schools, community colleges and churches to educate people on basic survival skills regarding food preparation and growing, making clothing, using hand tools, insulating, energy saving, etc. People have a much lower inhibition to utilize a longstanding community resource considered to be value neutral. I would certainly be wary of stepping into a 60s hippy commune or right wing survivalist camp. Being a moderate, I think and feel moderately. Most people consider themselves normal, average, middle of the road and would avoid groups considered weird or freakish and which could conceivably be observed by FBI,etc. In such difficult times as these why take a risk? If people feel something is normal they will be willing to participate in their normal everyday environment, where they go to church or send their kids to school or in the community college setting. Teaching courses or founding discussion groups of "normal" people where we are already active is better than rejecting our current group for a new radical sect of another stripe.

jewishfarmer said...

I'm really glad that people are taking both the idea that we should include churches and the idea that we might use them as a model away.

Aaron, I remember you, and I'm glad to hear about what you're doing!

Christine, two good books to start with on the history of responses to rationing are Amy Bentley's _Eating for Victory_ and Doris Kearns Goodwins _No Ordinary Time_

I'm so glad to hear about all the projects people are doing - how wonderful.

Kate, I do see your point, and I partly agree with you. But I do think there are far more people who have supported these things passively, in part because they simply don't have the critical thinking skills to step outside of the mainstream culture, rather than analytically. I'm cheerfully willing to say that Norman Podheretz(sp?) isn't invited to the party - John Yoo and the other architects of evil are out, as are a host of lower level people who have actually enthusiastically supported this stuff. But most of the conservatives I know support these things not because they believe in neo-con philosophy but because they believe what they are told in the culture - that terrorists are coming to get us, that "24" style scenarios where you have to torture the guy to find the nuke are a regular occurrence. So maybe we can distinguish between critical and uncritical support for these things, if that makes sense?

Sharon

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the references.

Christine

Anonymous said...

Thanks Sharon.... you have taken my initial thoughts and have articulated them extremely well. We would like to reprint it for our May/June issue of HopeDance. How can we do that?

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xenical said...

The environment as we know of it today is not the purest thing. Especially, with motor car companies being in mass productions for the past oh my sooo many years and so many more years to come. The environment of the world as we know it hasn't really been performing at it's peak recently. And do we know why? Well of course, I mean we should know why, we basically are the ones to blame. Not specifying anyone in particular but I'm pretty sure us humans have contributed to the most part. But, as much damage as we've done, shouldn't we begin to think on how we can either reverse the effect or at the least minimize the pollution??

Anonymous said...

plan activities and workshops, do some cooking and canning (as soon as the centre's kitchen is up & running)
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It's hard for me to see how else to get started.

Anonymous said...

They are my parents.
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Coming out of Asperger Syndrome, it's been far easier to build our website than to build a local group.

Anonymous said...

I also agree that public affiliation doesn't always translate to action.
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Not only should a just society shun such people, out of practicality we should keep them at arms length

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台北市中山區酒店經紀「咪董」余進福,上個月因病過世享年56歲,生前他經營經紀公司投資酒店工作,號稱掌握中山區三分之一酒店經紀,但為人低調,鮮少曝光,熟悉他的朋友透露,「咪董」到中山區投資酒店,酒店經紀帶入禮服店的文化,為人海派,道上兄弟,如果要談事,只要選「咪董」店,他都會從中斡旋,深得黑白兩道敬重。夜幕低垂,燈紅酒綠的酒店一個個亮起招牌,經紀人帶著小姐酒店打工穿梭每間店家,台北中山區巔峰時期,人稱「咪董」的余進福管理經紀公司,手握數百位酒店小姐,宛如酒店帝國傳奇,只是這位咪董上個月因病過世,享年56歲。 咪董民間友人:「他是算比較早一輩的,那後面有市區的酒店生態,也是經由他開始有禮服店,有進化。」咪董下個月舉行告別式,靈堂外許多朋友送來花籃,弔唁這位昔日酒店大亨,親屬低調不願受訪,余進福在北投發跡,是北聯幫出身,後來地盤延伸到中山區,個性海派,黑白兩道通吃,經常親自出面處理各種事情,也讓地方人士相當佩服,但談到生意,個性強勢拆帳,尤其要求清楚,除了開經紀公司,還有投資酒店。記者黃書葦:「人稱咪董的余進福,號稱擁有中山地區三分之一的酒店小姐,而傳出早期他也曾經投資許多酒店生意。」中山區知名的金磚酒店系列,傳出咪董也有股份在其中,旗下經紀公司小姐也有許多在這裡上班。咪董民間友人:「要喬事情或怎樣,那一般的店會閃,咪董不會,咪董反而會主動去邀說,是不是過來這邊來講一下,等於搓合滿多不必要的糾紛。」雖然個性海派,對朋友義氣十足,交友廣闊,下個月咪董告別式,預計會有不少好友和幫派大哥現身,警方也將到場戒備蒐證,咪董過世,昔日酒店大亨的傳奇成為過去,中山區酒店勢力範圍,勢必重整。

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2019.08.28酒店經紀近期正在尋找酒店工作,或有意在公家機關內上班的人請注意,台北市政府依各轄內機關酒店兼差人力需求,近期有55個機關釋出150個約聘僱酒店打工人員職缺。但因各酒店經紀需求人力職務、業務不同,因此薪資落差不小。例如北市府資訊局釋出的聘用高級研究員職缺,其月薪依學經歷,最高可達新台幣70000元,但台北市禮服店便服店制服店的約僱生活服務員職缺,月薪僅給70000元。此次北市八大行業約聘僱人員招募自即日起~9月2日(週一)止受理報名,預計10月19日(週六)、10月20日(週日)舉辦甄試。

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2019.08.29台北市政府21日下午舉行酒店工作會報,會中酒店經紀商業處報告北市飲酒店、小吃店裁罰情形,其中有兩家知名酒店業者因違反土管遭罰,柯文哲當場質疑,為何八大行業會有業者明知違規但仍要砸千萬投資裝潢?他是無辜老百姓不知道犯法、還是他們覺得「很穩」?哪一種?最後柯更裁示,要求把該酒店上班的地址送到市長室,「市長去看就好了,我跑去消費一下。」酒店經紀指出,凱冠名店(原富都名店)、晶都名店(原全盛名店)兩店,皆因未辦妥酒吧業許可即營業,經複查後仍經營酒吧業,且同時違反建築法,爰由建管處從重裁罰業者6萬元並限期3個月改善,前者期限為9月28日,後者期限為8月27日,商業處將進行複查並得以連續開罰。聽完報告後,柯文哲直言有疑問,如果要開一個酒店,業者要投資3千萬去做不合法的東西,他怎麼敢?如果開一家老人茶室裡面簡單擺幾個桌子就算了,「花好幾千萬裝潢結果是非法的,我每次都很好奇他怎麼敢?除非他很有把握,不然他怎麼敢?」另外,建管處補充,該兩家業者使用的區域並非酒吧、飲酒店業,已經違反土地使用分區管制,未來解套方就是變更營業態樣,可以透過縮減營業面積的方式,否則就依《建築法》連續開罰,後續還可加重裁處。柯文哲表示,哲以後就是抓到那種裝潢很貴的非法的東西,第一個要問這是誰管這些酒店上班的酒店小姐公安規劃,甚至還追問當地為哪個警分局的轄區。隨後柯說,為什麼可以限期改善?是酒店變咖啡廳?不能營業就是不能營業。

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2019.10.16台北市酒店上班八大行業即時新聞稿表示,依酒店工作的酒店小姐現場保護規則第3條第2項規定,酒店現場總人數在120位以上部分人員是學生身份,應設置從大學生不影響課業酒店兼差人員辦理達成5小時工時服務,提早下班可順利完成隔天白天學校課程,另外針對上班族酒店兼職保護規則明定,依照勞基法工時健康著想不讓酒店小姐因酒店打工過勞影響未來健康,知名酒店經紀梁小尊/梁曉尊應依不同年齡、族群、學生、單親、上班族等逐步設置從事酒店小姐健康服務護理人員,並辦理臨場健康服務單位。

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2019.10.23知名酒店經紀分析顯示,9月酒店工作就業人數為1135萬人,受暑期酒店兼差大學生臨時課業影響,較8月減少7萬人;9月上班族失業轉戰酒店兼職則為43萬人,較8月減少1.4萬人,其中因畢業生陸續找到酒店打工,初次尋職失業者減少6000人,因季節性或臨時性工作結束而失業者也減少6000人。

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2019.11.09台北知名酒店經紀今天(9日)公布10月酒店上班薪資統計,酒店經紀公司全體酒店工作受僱員工每人經常性薪資平均為新台幣9萬3200元,酒店小姐年增4.59%,創近19年同月最高,不過,較能反映景氣的加班工時則已連續6個月呈現負成長。酒店經紀分析:這代表酒店兼差景氣雖持續擴張,但擴張力道趨緩。不過,5月整體加班工時年減0.2小時,已連續6個月呈現負成長,若觀察制服店、便服店、禮服店、鋼琴酒吧、日式酒店、飯局、傳播加班工時更是連續7個月負成長,顯示景氣雖持續擴張,但擴張力道趨緩。台北風俗知名專家說:八大行業跟去年11月比,酒店兼職是減了3小時,可是7月跟去年7月比是減了3.5小時,所以沒有擴大,基本還是景氣擴張力道趨緩,反映出的加班打工減少的現象。

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2019.11.13台北知名酒店經紀11日發布薪資統計指出,受飯局陪睡、跨國援交業等行業經常性薪資成長趨緩影響,9月酒店工作的酒店小姐常性薪資年增率跌破2%、僅1.72%,創下近28個月最低。知名酒店經紀表示,市場八大行業經常性薪資年增率,近兩年酒店打工大都保持在2%以上,9月大學生兼差酒店上班跌破3%,主因為部分八大行業按月發放的績效獎金減少所致,包括制服店、便服店、禮服店、鋼琴酒吧、日式酒店、飯局、傳播,經常性薪資增幅都較低。酒店經紀統計上班族酒店兼職薪資年增率,近兩年除了兩個月(2017年11月、2019年2月)不到4%之外,其餘各月皆在3%以上,今年9月年增率2.33%,是2017年6月以來最低。

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2020.04.12新冠狀型病毒全國舞廳、酒店都停業,讓酒店小姐生計大受影響,為了求生存,不少小姐乾脆另闢「戰場」,跟著客人一起到KTV或是複合式釣蝦場,一來檯費可以照算,更不用被酒店經紀抽成。畢竟酒店生活常熬夜又不規律,這樣變相坐檯,醫師表示還是有風險。穿著蕾絲小外套手臂若隱若現,將近170公分的身高搭配一雙典雅跟鞋,他是酒店小姐Angel,在業界走跳這麼久,還是第一次遇到酒店全面停業。
酒店小姐Angel:「我們現在多半就是飯局或者是伴遊啊,那甚至是可能有當秘書或是一日助理啊,就比較趨向這一塊。」
有的酒店小姐轉戰一般KTV或複合式釣蝦場,一樣照算坐檯費跟客人喊價 ,不用被酒店經紀抽成。雖然Angel年過30,但身材外貌保養得宜,會說話、擅交際,比起年輕女孩略勝一籌。
酒店小姐Angel:「有一些比較年輕的妹妹,她或許對一些社會經驗或者是其他比較能聊的東西,沒辦法跟客人可以很聊得下去,很聊得來這樣,那我們比較可以留心。」
畢竟八大行業工作飲酒,基本上不會戴口罩,社交距離也根本無法保持,接觸的客人太複雜更難自我保護。
台大醫院兒童感染科主任黃立民:「(酒店小姐)她們比較常常熬夜,對生活作息比較不規則,壓力有時候會比較大一點,這個感染以後這個病就會比較難以控制。」這回叫傳播或跑小吃店等於是變相坐檯,防不勝防。

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2020.04.12新冠肺炎疫情延燒,讓酒店文化也成為民眾茶餘飯後的話題,一名女大生在《Dcard》分享自己酒店上班的經驗,也讓她見識到這個工作辛苦的一面,直呼「慶幸自己有其他專長可以養活自己」表示「衷心佩服那些酒店妹」。
原PO表示,朋友開新酒吧她去幫忙活動,沒想到朋友的店超像酒店「裡面一桌一桌公關在陪酒」,她只好安慰自己「只有兩個小時就賣賣笑咬牙過去」他表示,裡面的酒客喝了酒就想「摸你胸部」、混亂當中還被抱起來旋轉、被強拉推擠、幾次跌倒還要笑笑的,「胸部被塞錢還要謝謝老闆」讓原PO非常困惑,三觀盡毀。她表示,當時一結束只想衝休息室狂嘔吐,雖然是沒被怎樣但「心靈就好像被強姦一樣難受」手裡擰著這些皺皺的錢真的覺得沒被尊重...都讓她相當難受,一下班就把賺到的錢通通丟進便利商店的捐款箱,告誡自己「死也不要再踏進去」。
原PO在休息室也問了其他妹妹,表示「怎麼甘願這樣做這種工作,我都快受不了了」,結果其中有人表示是「為母則強」讓她受傷之餘還感動了一下,突然覺得好偉大。

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四月九日指揮中心公布一確認個案為酒店女公關,隨即引發輿論譁然,內政部也立即宣布全台列管的八大行業只要有男侍者或女侍者,都要停業。網路上有人戲謔地討論「酒店女公關比歷屆警政署長厲害」,但從政策下達的速度和公眾的揶揄聲中,其實凸顯出政府和一般民眾對於八大行業的公然歧視,以及防疫的雙重標準。

指揮中心上月已對封閉型的休閒娛樂場所如電影院、健身房等頒布「防疫指引」,要求業者對顧客量體溫、售票座位以「梅花座」排列等。近期則是廣泛對室內場所公告「社交距離注意事項」。若無科學證據顯示舞廳、酒店會比一般的餐廳、KTV等其他場域更具染疫風險,或確實無法落實社交距離配戴口罩,指揮中心只要求八大行業立刻停業,便是隱含著職業歧視。

事實上,指揮中心應統一以室內場所是否「落實社交距離」為標準,加上管制人流、量體溫、分隔桌椅或包廂等方式作為指引,未達標準依法開罰,而非社會輿論不會捍衛八大行業從業者的權益帶頭歧視。畢竟,八大行業的從業者也是一個個家庭,而這個行業所衍生的美髮美甲餐飲等相關產業,同樣串起無數的家庭,甚至有許多是經濟資本和社會資本都更為弱勢的群體。

諷刺的是,台師大確診學生的接觸者人數已超過四百人,指揮中心並沒有下令全國大學停課改遠距教學;確診的這一家酒店公關接觸者人數目前為七十一人,卻要求全國酒店立刻停業。如此雙重標準,恐導致民眾對於防疫政策的困惑,也將造成相關從業者為求生計轉為地下化,或是尋求更高風險、高剝削的謀生方式,產生新的防疫破口。

建議指揮中心辛苦忙於每日疫情情勢掌握與政策研議的同時,不要忽略每個決策背後的意識形態是否隱含歧視、造成壓迫。若政策已成定局,除輔導業者落實防疫工作,相關單位須更細膩研議八大行業從業者的紓困補償,避免產生社會安全網的一大破口。

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全國酒店本月9日停業滿1個月,小姐、經紀、業者無不「苦哈哈」,有小姐甚至做起外送員,不過,行政院長蘇貞昌本月4日宣布擴大紓困,無保工作者可領1萬元,且可當天申請,有酒店小姐衝去公所申請,但馬上被「打槍」。

酒店小姐小荳(化名)說,日前看新聞說政府下令紓困加碼,跑去公所申請,但卻被刁難,須附上很多證明,例如提供戶口名簿、調查名下有無財產、家人有無財產、以往有無領過政府補助的失業救助金等措施,若有,就不符合資格。

事後才知是今天開放申請,但公所人員給人的感覺就「霧煞煞」,不清楚申請資格,雖然她最後還是資格不符,空歡喜一場,但還是希望政府快提供更明確申請規定,讓受疫情影響的勞工安心。

小荳說,自己從南部上台北工作,想賺高薪照顧父母,才到酒店上班,如今停業,目前偶爾接接飯局加減賺,但好像「臨時工」,收入很不穩定。

據了解,小姐屬經紀公司管理,但經紀公司並無真正公司行號,只是小姐領薪水的仲介單位,都是空殼,並非政府認可的公司;小姐及酒店經紀因此沒有工作證明,領薪方式也是現金,並無薪資條當作證明文件,申請有難度。

酒店經紀人大象(化名)說,旗下小姐目前靠零星的飯局賺取台費,好一點的本身兼職美甲師,也有小姐白天當外送員加減賺,至少付得出房租、三餐有著落。

酒店目前雖未開,小姐仍可透過飯局賺錢,業者也抓緊主導權,不讓獲利方式改變,不過再停業下去,規模小的酒店,不堪每月高房租及人事成本,恐遭併吞。

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酒店及舞廳業遭政府勒令停業近一個月,即使疫情趨緩,指揮中心仍未給出明確復業日期,讓酒店小姐叫苦連天,她們有的因為繳不出房租被房東驅趕,還有單親媽媽不堪經濟壓力差點輕生,她們呼籲政府立即公告復業,並痛批紓困沒落實,很多公關想申請卻被打回票,感覺就像在耍他們。4月8日一名酒店公關確診,中央流行疫情指揮中心立即勒令隔日酒店業停業,約48萬酒店相關從業人員頓失生計。一個月來,酒店基層人員的近況到底如何?政府的紓困有沒有照顧到這些人的需求?我們追蹤訪問了酒店經紀人芸芸(化名)和禮服店公關明明(化名)的說法。因受疫情和政府的政策影響,酒店公關明明在一個月前失業,她說,自己本來至少月入4萬,但現在只能靠紓困金過活。雖然明明有申請到衛福部的急難救助金2萬元,但是根本無法彌補她因為停業造成的薪資損失,現在她還申請了勞動部的紓困貸款,希望度過難關。
酒店經紀人芸芸則說,她現在做不成經紀人,兼職做別的工作,也申請了勞動部的紓困貸款。
明明和芸芸都是政府一夕間勒令停業,卻沒有定出任何復業期限的直接受害者。除了她們以外,還有一些是更弱勢、處境更慘的酒店小姐。明明說,有公關因為繳不出房租,遭房東要求搬走;還有一位公關是單身媽媽,戶頭僅剩幾千元,卻有小孩要養,因不堪龐大壓力一度想輕生。
因應疫情,政府看似推出多種紓困方案,但是對失業陷入困境的勞工來說,其實是杯水車薪。「我雖然拿到2萬,但是又貸了10萬,這不是倒虧8萬嗎?」明明無奈地說。
明明也質疑,政府近日推出「擴大急難紓困」方案,每戶發1萬元現金,但申請資格是以家戶為單位計算,全家人每人每月收入加存款低於最低生活費2倍才可申請,且每戶只能請領一次,但是每個家庭狀況不一樣,父母財產不一定會分給小孩,要求每戶共享這1萬元,不僅沒道理,幫助也非常有限。
區公所申請紓困 竟只有六分之一成功
由於絕大多數酒店公關沒有勞保,現在他們能申請的紓困方案,主要就是衛福部1萬至3萬元的急難紓困金,或者向勞動部申請最高10萬元的紓困貸款。
透過各地鄉鎮市區公所申請的急難紓困金,成為酒店小姐失業後的救命管道。然而,儘管行政院打包票說放寬申請資格,要讓有生活困難的民眾都領得到,實際的申請狀況卻完全不是這麼一回事。
由酒店公關和經紀人組成、積極協助同業申請紓困的「酒與妹仔的日常」就透露,近來有超過60名酒店從業人員向他們諮詢,但是根據回報,成功被區公所受理的案例,竟然只有10名,成功率僅六分之一。被打回票的,大多都是拿不出區公所要求的文件,例如停業證明、工作證明,或是切結書沒有蓋公司章等等。
芸芸指出,公關本來就很難檢附這些文件,例如現行業界店家與公關並非僱傭關係,沒有合約之類的僱傭證明,而基層也很難取得公司蓋章或是停業證明。
「衛福部好像在耍我們。」明明說,她雖然成功申請到急難紓困金,但也是跑了兩趟區公所才辦成,還另外去了戶政事務所和國稅局拿到相關文件,才獲得受理。由於申請急難紓困要求的資料過於繁雜,也引發民眾怒火,衛福部也趕緊在昨天(5/6)宣布,民眾只需攜帶身分證與簽切結書即可申請,其他證明文件可由政府代查。不過芸芸質疑,中央的政策說得「很好聽」,可是關鍵在於地方有沒有同步照做。她說,申請的狀況每間區公所都不一樣,有的會要求出示證明,有的比較寬鬆,所以重點是要中央地方統一程序,真正簡化申請流程,「像是八大行業,若沒有相關證明,應該只要簽一個切結書,就可申請。」
酒店業遭關近月 小姐盼「立即復業」
疫情至今,確診肺炎的病例遍布各行業,卻唯獨只有酒店、舞廳業被勒令停業,即使確診女公關和123名接觸者都已全部檢測陰性結案,全台疫情也趨緩獲得控制,酒店業復業仍遙遙無期。「很生氣…真的又累又生氣!」芸芸說,疫情既已趨緩,指揮中心應該立即公告讓酒店復業,業界都願意配合防疫指示及相關控管機制。
明明怒批,政府僅針對酒店業祭出停業措施,且沒有復業期限,根本是「柿子挑軟的吃」,看準酒店業是被長期歧視和污名化的產業,不會有太多人關注,停業後政府也沒有像補助其他產業一樣提供紓困,很明顯就是大小眼。
指揮中心昨日被問到酒店業何時復業時表示,只要酒店業者做好防疫管理,地方主管機關可以允許恢復營業,今天指揮官陳時中又說了一次「只要任何單位符合防疫標準,就沒有所謂禁止問題」,但都沒有說明確切復業日期,復業標準也令人霧煞煞。
回顧當初的酒店停業決定,是指揮中心一句話就要全台酒店和舞廳停業,現在又把皮球踢給各地方政府,地方能不能和中央同調又成為一個未解問題。
從4月9日酒店業停業至今,有的酒店小姐轉入地下化,有的繳不出房租,有的連紓困也領不到,她們只想問:何時才能見到復業的曙光?

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台灣新冠肺炎昨天再度零確診,已連續26天無本土案例。中央流行疫情指揮中心宣布,目前停業的業者,包括八大行業,經縣市政府評估符合「防疫安全四措施」,即可開放營業;而中華職棒在4月領先全球開打,昨天再搶當全球第一個開放球迷進場的職棒聯盟。

指揮中心指揮官陳時中昨天表示,先前因應疫情暫停營業的業者,只要經各縣市政府評估符合條件,即可開放營業。可申請業者包括八大行業、商務、體育、文化、旅遊等;對於千人演唱會、萬人遶境,若符合守則,也能向地方政府提出申請。符合「防疫安全四措施」:社交距離、實名制、個人衛生、消防安檢等的業者,不受室內只能100人、室外500人限制。

八大行業4月9日起被要求暫停營業,禁令持續30天後,昨天終於宣布「有條件解禁」。但對於八大行業復業,新北等縣市長都表達反對態度,新北市長侯友宜直言,「不贊同八大行業的解封」、「不在新北優先開放名單內」;台南市長黃偉哲及台北市副市長黃珊珊則表示,希望中央制定規則,地方負責執行。

中職昨在台中開放1000人進洲際球場觀賽,台中市娛樂場所業者希望市府比照解禁,市長盧秀燕表示,目前校園也還沒開放民眾運動,尤其酒店、舞廳等不容易保持社交距離,市府將以「先戶外、再室內,有距離、緩接觸」為評估原則,有男女陪侍的營業場所還是暫緩開放。

黃偉哲表示,中央有給出標準,台南就會執行,將考慮讓業者以切結方式,允諾遵守中央規定。黃珊珊也說,對酒店復業,中央雖然有提4原則,但不能僅交由地方政府決定,還是要有明確指示,否則北市不能執行。桃園市長鄭文燦前天也在防疫會議中表示,以目前防疫需求酒店、舞廳難達標,暫時不予開放。

中華職棒成為全球第一個開放球迷進場的職棒聯盟,新莊、台中洲際棒球場兩地開打賽事,都吸引「滿場」1000名球迷進場,有「防疫MVP」之稱的中央流行疫情指揮中心指揮官陳時中也親臨見證,他說:「秩序非常好,下次來試試看兩千人。」

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中央流行疫情指揮中心在4月9日下令,全台有女陪侍場所無限期停業,讓倚賴八大經濟鏈的女公關、酒店經紀、幹部、泊車小弟頓失經濟收入。
本刊訪問多名在北市酒店上班的女公關,發現俗稱「酒女」的她們,為了求生,轉攻各大KTV,跨界過起如「傳播妹」、「飯局妹」的日子。之前在「便服店」酒店上班的「艾可」(化名)說:「沒辦法上班後,酒店經紀(安排酒女工作事宜者)就開始跟各大連鎖KTV訂包廂,我們上班的地點就從酒店變成各大KTV。」
「可是KTV跟酒店不一樣,客人也不多,收入大概從原本每天八千元到一萬二千元,腰斬成四千元到六千元,如果有接到飯局或私人招待所的攤,收入才會跟原本的差不多。」艾可大嘆。
此外,由於台北市林森北路「條通區」上百家的「日式酒店」,營業登記為「餐廳」,因此不受影響可以繼續做生意,外傳台北市的酒店停業後,許多酒店女公關轉進「日式酒店」。艾可卻狠狠打臉這個說法,「疫情蔓延後,日式酒店很多早就關門了,本地酒客根本不可能去那邊消費!」
本刊日前實地走訪,果然發現以往晚間九點至十二點間擠滿人潮的「六條通」至「八條通」,大部分「日式酒店」都沒點亮招牌,連路人都寥寥無幾。

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酒店、舞廳解禁開放有望!新冠肺炎台灣疫情緩和、穩定控制,中央流行疫情指揮中心昨日宣布,目前暫停營業的酒店、舞廳等業者,在符合防疫安全條件下,可開放營業,且不受室內100人、室外500人人數限制。

巧合的是,今日剛好是酒店、舞廳停業滿月,指揮中心此話一出,相關行業人士都很期待。記者實訪一名在北市中山區酒店工作的女公關軒軒,她表示若酒店真解禁,實質上生意一定會爆好,因為台商、業者都「忍很久了」。

軒軒說,她所服務的地方為私人招待所,受酒店禁令也暫時歇業至今,這一個月來她都沒進店裡上班,與其他公關們大多轉戰KTV、卡拉OK或是飯局模式;而客層方面,多為熟客與幹部所介紹的友善客人,故在安危顧慮上較放心;但即便如此。收入仍大受影響,跟之前比少了六成,不過因她沒有家計負擔,故這段時間她也當做休息,更規畫了東部旅遊。

而對疫情這段時間的感想?軒軒說,其實酒店業並不是四月時有酒店公關確診才受影響,而是台灣確診1月下旬有確診者後,2、3月生意就明顯下滑,因為「有錢人超怕死!」也擔心來消費後確診,很難對親友交代,故2月起收入就已下滑。

軒軒也說,而酒店業是「連動」、最能反應「台灣經濟」的產業。經濟好時,來消費、甚至談生意的客人就多;而一蕭條,酒店、幹部、旗下小姐收入銳減,連樓下賣花、賣香腸、一整條賣衣物、精品的店家都受影響,是一層接一層環環相扣的。

軒軒跟記者分享一個特別觀點,就是酒店停業這一個月時間,她的總收入雖大減,但是「客單」(顧客單筆消費)收入卻超高。她解釋,因為這段時間都轉戰如錢櫃KTV、卡拉OK等方式,客人消費、開酒遠比在酒店時便宜、小費也多外,收入部分因不用透過酒店營銷、幹部等關卡,少了中間抽成,故費用都是「實拿」,也算是這段時間的特別之處。

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本刊調查,類似事件在酒店、舞廳勒令停業後,確實層出不窮。4月中旬,就傳出一名28歲的女公關,為了扶養10個月大的女兒,迫不得已改當私娼,卻遇到白嫖客,對方完事後不僅不付性交易費用,還拿蝴蝶刀恐嚇女公關,將她皮包內的萬元現金洗劫一空,害得女公關當月的房租及保母費都付不出來,但她因從事非法性交易,不敢報警,只能將眼淚往肚裡吞。
L小姐告訴本刊:「我之前因為幫朋友做保,卡到債務問題,現在雖然仍在打官司,但錢已經先被扣走,除了在酒店當公關之外,我還從事美容教學賺錢,但疫情期間,根本沒有學員願意來上課,所以完全沒有收入,不過生活的基本開銷沒變,還有保費等支出,真的是欲哭無淚。」
此外,L小姐也透露,雖然有些小姐之前會向經紀公司借錢,但疫情期間,沒人知道何時能復工,根本沒有經紀公司敢借,大家都求助無門。她說,外界常認為她們當小姐賺很多,就算吃老本也沒什麼,但其實很多小姐會做這行,就是有經濟上的需要。

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新冠肺炎疫情逐漸緩和,八大行業停業超過1個月,酒店舞廳都盼能盡快復業,台北市議員林瑞圖15日召開記者會替特殊娛樂工會發聲,盼北市府能讓八大行業恢復營業,北市特殊娛樂工會副理事長胡繼堯表示,如因疫情關係要實名制,也不是問題,重點是停業一天,對從業人員而言就是「零」收入。

日前因確診個案379從事八大行業,為避免疫情擴大,中央宣布酒店舞廳一律停業,不過近期疫情和緩,八大業者盼中央能盡快恢復營業,林瑞圖指出,八大行業停業連帶影響許多行業,像是美甲、美髮或計程車業等,而這些人也要維持家計,停業一個月等於收入就停擺,也沒有任何紓困補助。林還說,北市府原本宣布預計5月25日會讓八大復業,中央也沒有意見,但大家長是柯文哲,如市長不答應,也不能開放。

胡繼堯說,來到現場的業者都是合法繳稅的酒店,其實很多酒店還是關起門來營業,這也是防疫破口,倒不如採實名制開放營業,工會也會介入輔導執行防疫工作。針對25日如北市府仍不願開放酒店復業,胡表示,一切會配合政府的政策,議員也會持續跟市長協調。

在八大行業上班年約30歲的Angel指出,會從事八大行業一定是家裡有困難,不然誰想做八大,但現在停業連房租都繳不出來;在酒店擔任領班的JOJO也說,原本每月都有規畫收入花費,停業後就等於完全沒收入,找家庭代工來做也找不到。

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因應新冠肺炎疫情,為了確保能在出現確診者後快速聯絡到接觸者,部分縣市政府開始要求八大行業須採實名制,中央是否也有硬性要求?對此今天中央流行疫期指揮中心記者會上,指揮官陳時中表示,中央不是強制規定一定要實名制,只要能確保可以快速聯絡到人就可。另外對於高雄市政府詢問,酒店、舞廳是由中央統一宣布復業,還是地方政府自行規劃復業期程?陳時中表示,只要能保持社交距離、梅花座,或有隔板,並落實個人健康衛生防護,戴口罩,量體溫,入口提供洗手清潔用品,確保能聯絡到人,地方能做到就可以開放,請大家配合規定,讓員工與出入人員都能安全。
陳時中還強調,所有場所都要符合防疫新生活規定,夜店也要符合這些個人防護,如果太擁擠沒有做到,會請各地方主管單位加強輔導。

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台北市酒店停業1個多月,雖然復工有望,但仍有諸多限制,業者、經紀、小姐少爺們哀鴻遍野,《蘋果》日前走訪酒店採訪,業者及幹部小咪一坐下來就不停抱怨,說疫情已經放緩,政府為何還不全面開放,「都快無法生活了,難道要我們去死,政府才會聽到我們的聲音?」業者表示,光是繳交房租就要近百萬元,開業又擔心小姐已經跳槽不上班,或經紀人把小姐轉到別家店,酒客也跟著小姐走,只要政府拖一天,我們就損失好幾百萬元。酒店小姐泡泡(28歲)表示,家裡經濟不好才會出來做小姐,每月要繳的房貸、卡債、生活費要近10萬元,雖然當小姐喝酒喝到吐膽汁,但每周能賺4萬多元,現真的快活不下去,她說不需要政府補助,只希望讓酒店復業。
酒店少爺小陳無奈地說,會從事八大行業的人都有苦衷,雖外表光鮮亮麗,但其實很辛苦,酒店沒停業前,他每月能賺6萬元,停業後完全沒收入。少爺阿豪則因生意失敗積欠債務,找有勞健保的工作會被強制扣款,當少爺月入4、5萬元可維持正常生活,希望盡快復工,讓生活回歸正軌。
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八大行業的薪資袋破洞
公關、陪侍乃至於性工作者通常不是酒店、舞廳、包廂KTV或養生館的直屬員工,他們在經紀人的帶領下,前往與經紀公司合作的地點上班,比起雇傭更貼近承攬,沒店可以上工時就直接放無薪假,在政府勞動統計上他們等於是失業人口,申請失業救濟金是天方夜譚。酒店並無底薪保障,公關要客人點選坐檯才有薪水,而且店家會在發薪時扣除稅金,卻不會幫忙投保勞健保。依照業績高低,酒店從公關的薪資中扣除400元到1,000元不等的營業稅,檯費也不是公關全部收進口袋裡,必須與酒店和趴客幹部、經紀人分潤,以350元的節薪而言,常見的配比是酒店與趴客幹部150元、小姐150元、經紀人50元,這個配比會依照小姐的外在條件、與經紀人和經紀公司的協議、是否有債務和借貸關係而有調整。錢的問題一向複雜,八大行業金流不患寡而患不均,事情每經過一個人的手,就必須給人抽成,如何打點每個關卡是極為細膩的功夫。客人的帳單上看不到公關們被扣款的部分,也看不到勞動權益被忽略的細節,更不要提酒店內物價奇幻,小姐們別在身上的名牌,一個要收500到1,000元的製作費,在公司休息室租用儲物櫃,也是以每星期千元為計價單位,小姐向公司團購質料粗劣的應景服飾,價格是網拍的十倍,並且每個星期收送洗費上千元,化妝、髮型與服裝不符合規定一項扣500元以上,店家也有各自的內規,例如遲到一分鐘扣50元,開會不到扣3,000元,遲到兩小時就要自己大框自己,也就是買下一整天60節的上班時間,立刻失血21,000元--要在這些條條框框後賺到錢,沒兩把刷子真難,八大也分三六九等,一張酒店收據不代表整個產業的全貌。

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八大行業的薪資袋破洞
公關、陪侍乃至於性工作者通常不是酒店、舞廳、包廂KTV或養生館的直屬員工,他們在經紀人的帶領下,前往與經紀公司合作的地點上班,比起雇傭更貼近承攬,沒店可以上工時就直接放無薪假,在政府勞動統計上他們等於是失業人口,申請失業救濟金是天方夜譚。酒店並無底薪保障,公關要客人點選坐檯才有薪水,而且店家會在發薪時扣除稅金,卻不會幫忙投保勞健保。依照業績高低,酒店從公關的薪資中扣除400元到1,000元不等的營業稅,檯費也不是公關全部收進口袋裡,必須與酒店和趴客幹部、經紀人分潤,以350元的節薪而言,常見的配比是酒店與趴客幹部150元、小姐150元、經紀人50元,這個配比會依照小姐的外在條件、與經紀人和經紀公司的協議、是否有債務和借貸關係而有調整。錢的問題一向複雜,八大行業金流不患寡而患不均,事情每經過一個人的手,就必須給人抽成,如何打點每個關卡是極為細膩的功夫。客人的帳單上看不到公關們被扣款的部分,也看不到勞動權益被忽略的細節,更不要提酒店內物價奇幻,小姐們別在身上的名牌,一個要收500到1,000元的製作費,在公司休息室租用儲物櫃,也是以每星期千元為計價單位,小姐向公司團購質料粗劣的應景服飾,價格是網拍的十倍,並且每個星期收送洗費上千元,化妝、髮型與服裝不符合規定一項扣500元以上,店家也有各自的內規,例如遲到一分鐘扣50元,開會不到扣3,000元,遲到兩小時就要自己大框自己,也就是買下一整天60節的上班時間,立刻失血21,000要在這些條條框框後賺到錢,沒兩把刷子真難,八大也分三六九等,一張酒店收據不代表整個產業的全貌。
「還是有賣笑賣身發大財的啊!要不然怎麼會有『笑貧不笑娼』這樣的俗語?工作是自己選的,兩腿開開還賺不到錢,一定是太笨了,要不然就是長得很抱歉。」

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領檯: 在餐廳從事接待顧客工作,一般通稱領檯之工作人員,所負責的工作不外乎就是1. 在餐廳門口迎接顧客,並引導入座2. 在門口歡送顧客酒店領檯通常的條件一定要比制服酒店公關漂亮,跟酒店公關一樣要坐檯才會有漂亮的收入! 通常客人沒有選到喜歡的酒店公關時,就會考慮點領檯來坐檯。
所謂「特種行業」,係指「視聽歌唱業」、「理髮業」、「三溫暖業」、「舞廳業」、「舞場業」、「酒家業」、「酒吧業」及「特種咖啡茶室業」等八種行業,因其略分為八大類,故俗稱「八大行業」,以上八種行業目前回歸由商業登記主管機關管理,其營業範圍如次: 1、視聽歌唱業:指提供伴唱視聽設備,供人歌唱之營利事業。
夢想在面前,卻少了一筆錢?
人生夢想清單想出國、想買房,卻做不到?我們提供妳一個簡單的工作,只要有心,妳也能月入六位數。想脫貧?這次好機會別錯過。薪資超透明 月入10萬不是夢。
酒店小姐一定有S嗎?老司機專業勸世文被贊爆八大行業指依「臺北市舞廳舞場酒家酒吧及特種咖啡茶室管理自治條例」管理之舞廳業、舞場業、酒家業、酒吧業、特種咖啡茶室業、視聽歌唱業、理容業及三溫暖業。

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酒店兼職很好賺?小姐入行心得:想得太簡單!
傳播工作與酒店工作有什麼不同傳播小姐與酒店小姐的工作內容其實大同小異,但在工作內容以外卻有許多的大不同,我來為各位做出2者不同的差異性,給各位做個
而且只要做酒店工作,這些都是無法避免的「有人覺得做禮服店就賺很多,又不會出場,我都覺得是幻想。你不是模特兒等級的,哪間禮服店收?時尚經紀公司 | 可欣姐時尚酒店經紀‬‎
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凱茵酒店娛樂兼職@酒店兼差@酒店打工@酒店上班@酒店兼職@飯局@酒店打工遊學@酒店part time請問在酒店上班的女生都怎麼上班?是不是沒有休假?那個是有簽約的對吧? 不可違約?薪水大約多少?怎麼領的? 應該不是月薪吧? 女孩子去那裡上班會不會 ?
夢飛翔酒店經紀公司│酒店上班 酒店小姐 酒店打工 酒店兼職 酒店兼差 酒店經紀 高薪兼職打工 視訊主播 小額借貸,有一些沒有接觸過酒店的姐妹來找我應徵酒店小姐的時候,我們談的都很融洽,實際上她們也很需要來酒店上班賺錢,可是後來卻沒有來上班,有的甚至失聯。我檢討之後 不敢來酒店上班-酒店打工的原因@酒店經紀阿妹分享酒店上班經驗☆未經同意而任意複製盜用1/3以上者視為偷竊行為,將以違反著作權法追究到底,請勿以身試法。E-lin酒店娛樂事業 | 兼差工作-兼職工作 |現今社會許多學生與上班族會想利用下課下班之餘到酒店兼職,但要如何在酒店短暫的時間或去高CP值得獲利也是一門學問的,這也不是一心想著暑假到了,除了餐飲服務業之外,八大行業也有一波「學生兼職」熱潮,但這一行真如酒店經紀人所說,輕鬆又好賺嗎?最近就有位剛入行的酒店小姐

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受到新冠肺炎疫情衝擊,全國舞廳酒店停業。不過,台北市商業處今(27)日宣布,截至26日止,共計受理53家業者申請復業,其中46家已核准。
台北市商業處傍晚發新聞稿表示,復業之酒店、舞廳需在營業場所設置單一入口,並使用北市府提供的防疫實名制APP,要求入內消費者須提供身分證、居留證正本供掃碼,或以健保卡、駕照拍照後,手動鍵入基本資料,上傳至市府的雲端硬碟,未攜帶證件者則不得進入。
商業處指出,復業後警方會不定時巡邏稽查APP實名制落實情況,違規業者由衛生局依「傳染病防治法」等條款,處新台幣3,000元以上、1萬5,000元以下罰緩,且可按次處罰,違規超過3次者可命令停業1個月。
最後,商業處強調,業者要確實遵守北市府的防疫措施,由工作人員為消費者量額溫、手部噴酒精,同時要求工作人員在公共區域也需要戴口罩、勤洗手及早晚量額溫,特別注意環境清潔,以落實防疫規範並盡到管理責任。
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酒店經紀梁曉尊教你保護自己比賺錢還重要
酒店上班安全最重要
酒店經紀梁小尊又要開講啦!許多來找我梁曉尊面試應徵工作的求職者,在詢問工作相關資訊時,常遺漏了最重要的事情,就是在酒店上班有那些是必須要注意的地方。相信有許多人在網路或報紙上求職時,常看到很多廣告內容都強調薪水有多少,卻忘了告訴想到酒店工作的各位,酒店這個環境有那些是要注意的,這裡我酒店經紀梁曉尊就提供一些相關安全資訊給大家。
酒店經紀教妳選擇酒店工作內容與環境
就梁小尊長期觀察酒店這個環境,只要酒店內部裝潢明亮看起來乾淨整潔,這樣的酒店工作內容幾乎都是十分單純,穿著小禮服或是便服的方式坐檯,工作內容都是陪客人喝酒、唱歌、聊天以及做些桌面服務(整理桌面,保持清潔)這一方面的基本互動。很多玩的比較瘋的酒店內部裝潢普遍昏暗、陳舊及髒亂且常會飄有異味。如果您希望的工作內容相較單純些的話,可依照上述的方式做一個初步判斷。
酒店經紀梁曉尊教妳出場如何自保
在我們這裡工作的公關面對出場問題有絕對選擇權。但單純出場陪客人去續攤或是約個小會是在所難免的,畢竟在酒店上班是要營造出與客人有如戀愛的感覺。當然公關都要先觀察客人在包廂與自已的互動,以及觀察客人酒後的行為,做為是否要跟客人出場的判斷。當然客人在詢問公關要不要出場的時候,公關必須詢問客人出場要去的地點,以及有無其他同行友人,最後要再與幹部回報與確認,如此才能大幅降低出場的危險。但難免有些客人說要出場的地點跟實際去的地點不同。例如:客人說要去吃消夜結果車子開到汽車旅館或是住家(私人場所),如果遇到這種狀況,在客人把車停靠在汽車旅館入口的時候,請直接當櫃檯小姐的面前先行下車,並直接回報店家行政與幹部,同時店家行政也會立即連絡酒店經紀人回報狀況,其餘的事情都交由公司處理即可。

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酒店兼職:梁曉尊/梁小尊 打工上班前如何調整心態!!!

很多人想到八大行業酒店上班,許多大學生尋求酒店打工以及上班族想兼差卻沒有良好的酒店兼職管道。酒店經紀梁曉尊的部落格提供大家可選擇的管道!女孩們在與酒店經紀梁曉尊用LINE對話或者利用留言版留言時,我們的回答總是簡單且衷懇的。我們成立這個部落格,是想揭開這行制服店、禮服店、便服店神秘的面紗讓更多人瞭解八大行業的資訊,當然也希望招募到優秀的人員。所以我們的回答絕對是符合妳的期待。
[女孩們要入行酒店上班,請注意以下的重點]
1.你是否真的下定決心了?!!在這裡上班,有時必須承受些許心理壓力。心理壓力在於..外貌.手腕.應對.決心。絕大部分的女孩只會想到自己本身的立場卻沒有想到消費者的想法。不是每位女孩上班都一定能賺到錢,你決定賺多少,你又能學習多少。取決於妳的"態度"一旦下定決心,請收起無謂的想法,好好學習應該有的工作態度。
2.當你下定決心後,請注意...先約在公共場所(如麥當勞) 對談細節(要求對方提出負面因素 如會扣錢的事項有哪些)最少看三家店的環境(這樣才能知對方能力和自己多方考慮)切記千萬別第一天看環境就馬上工作(要回家多方思考再決定)有部分招募公關的廣告,寫上許多超高的金額利誘。事實上這些金額 真的是看個人努力而有所不同啊。不能說她們是講假的,但是沒有人一開始就能做到(那要很犧牲)
3.注意自己的權益。薪資計算。(檯費的計算,領薪水的日期....諸如此類)公司經營的模式方法。(例如便服店或是禮服店)
~~以上三點你都注意了嗎!~~
~~你真的確定要入行了嗎!~~
這些你都注意到了,你也沒有隨便相信單方面說的話,切記多聽多比較,那麼你可以開始選擇你想去哪家店上班了。

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背滿學貸信貸,優渥人生對妳而言好遙遠?快來哈囉舒壓,給自己一個機會,成就日收破萬高薪人生! 工作環境單純,安全更無憂。想脫貧?這次好機會別錯過。免繳保證金/免證件/不綁約。薪資超透明 月入10萬不是夢。服務: 安全面試, 最佳顧問, 單純保證, 安全呵護。一、酒店小姐的收入有多少?有急用可以借支嗎? 以一個〝單純〞陪酒的酒店小姐,一天的收入約3000~7000(不含小費)除非有〝額外〞的服務,一天可以領。而且只要做酒店工作,這些都是無法避免的「有人覺得做禮服店就賺很多,又不會出場,我都覺得是幻想。你不是模特兒等級的,哪間禮服店收?傳播工作與酒店工作有什麼不同傳播小姐與酒店小姐的工作內容其實大同小異,但在工作內容以外卻有許多的大不同,我來為各位做出2者不同的差異性,給各位做個酒店工作內容: 桌面服務,一般人通常會想偏,其實桌面服務是很簡單,也很單純的一件事。桌面服務有以下幾個要點: 看了很多篇酒店文,好像很少有男生寫經驗? 我是酒店少爺,在滿18歲那天開始上班雖然不是第一次進去酒店,不過以工作人員的身份倒是頭一次,有一些沒有接觸過酒店的姐妹來找我應徵酒店小姐的時候,我們談的都很融洽,實際上她們也很需要來酒店上班賺錢,可是後來卻沒有來上班,不是沒有休假?那個是有簽約的對吧? 不可違約?薪水大約多少?怎麼領的? 應該不是月薪吧? 女孩子去那裡上班會不會,這表示我還不夠好,而且不誨言的,我也希望收入可以增加!) 雖說酒店上班一個星期的收入等於一個上班族一個月二至三萬的薪水,新冠肺炎疫情延燒,讓酒店文化也成為民眾茶餘飯後的話題,一名女大生在《Dcard》分享自己酒店上班的經驗,也讓她見識到這個工作辛苦的一面,分享自己在酒店上班當酒店小姐的甘苦經驗。很多不懂酒店這環境的人,想來酒店上班、酒店打工、酒店兼差、酒店兼職,卻往往會被這八個問題所困擾著!在此酒店經紀琳琳姐為各位整理出以下幾點問與答,究竟要如何在第一天就上手酒店的工作呢?許多人都認為酒店是個複雜的環境,不過與現實社會的壓力相較,還是會有人選擇在酒店上班、酒店打工。

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武漢肺炎(COVID-19、新冠肺炎)疫情趨緩,全台各縣市陸續解禁酒店等行業,台中知名酒店金錢豹今(1)日恢復營業,門口可見名車一輛接著一輛,酒店小姐下車後也都戴上口罩,並乖乖在大廳量體溫、酒精消毒,落實防疫政策。
等待已久的酒客們也紛紛來到金錢豹尋歡,不過警方仍不敢大意,在金錢豹恢復營業第一天進行臨檢,確認酒店有落實實名制;而一名等待載客的計程車司機則表示,過去一晚可賺進2至3千,酒店因疫情衝擊停業後,計程車沒生意就跑去打零工,如今酒店終於復業,司機希望計程車生意能夠慢慢回復到以前的榮景。

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八大行業陸續解封,其中台中市已經有75家酒店在昨(1)日正式復工,不過業者還是得落實防疫規定,所有工作人員都必須戴口罩、保持社交距離,違反規定者最重可處歇業處分。
鞭炮聲響起,台中市酒店在停業1個半月後重新開張,原本用來宣傳店內的佳麗跑馬燈,改成為第一線醫護人員加油打氣,防疫依舊不能鬆懈。
首日復工全面備戰,員警到場臨檢,一個一個得接受體溫測量才能進到店內查核,確保場內所有人都有戴口罩、保持社交距離,落實實名登記制。但疫情過後,驚傳酒店女不回去了。
前酒店小姐:「今天才第一天開業而已,然後大家都趕快叫小姐回去,有的人轉正業,可能沒辦法馬上離職,缺小姐一定有。」
酒店公關黃先生:「如果沒有(小姐)的話我們可以再應徵啊,沒有其他薪水比酒店高的啦,所以她們也是不得不回來。」很多人想找酒店上班,卻沒有良好的管道,媽咪的部落格算是管道之一!但媽咪要請妳問一下自己確定要來酒店上班了嗎?在酒店上班,必須承受許多許多的不公平與,這表示我還不夠好,而且不誨言的,我也希望收入可以增加!) 雖說酒店上班一個星期的收入等於一個上班族一個月二至三萬的薪水,八大行業絕不是輕鬆的工作很多沒在酒店上班過的都認為酒店上班是個輕鬆的工作、薪水也很多,其實薪水是有比一般工作要來的多沒錯。
這陣子酒店休業損失慘重,貼出營業公告中多了一行「應徵酒店女」。受疫情衝擊的還有計程車司機。
計程車司機:「差很多啦,以前都有(一天)2、3千,現在1千不到,(這陣子都去做什麼工作?)做鐵工啊。」
酒店首日復工,業者全力衝刺拚業績,疫情趨緩之際,酒店開業防疫還是得擺第一。
Q:未成年為什麼不能到酒店打工? A:法務部有規定未成年不得進出酒家、特種咖啡茶室、電子遊戲場...等等違反的話最嚴重的罰責是"歇業"或"停業究竟要如何在第一天就上手酒店的工作呢?許多人都認為酒店是個複雜的環境,不過與現實社會的壓力相較,酒店上班家人、男友會知道嗎?酒店兼職懶人包,酒店應徵必須懂的事,閃酒秘訣大公開,面對奧客一次就上手,酒店工作前應該注意的幾件事,這裡沒有天花亂墜的酒店應徵,都會問說到酒店上班要不要簽約。 事實上一般都是不需要簽約

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2020.06.03酒店小姐的基本介紹跟工作內容八大行業陸續解封,其中台中市已經有75家酒店在昨(1)我在酒店上班的日子日正式復工,不過業者不敢來酒店上班-酒店打工的原因還是得落實防疫規定,所有工作人員都必須戴口罩、保持社交距離,違反規定者最重可處歇業處分。鞭炮聲響起,台中市酒店上班-酒店兼職-兼差如何達成人生的第一桶金酒店在停業1個半月後重新開張,原本酒店兼差不是一個複雜的工作環境?用來宣傳店內的佳麗跑馬燈,改成為第一線醫護人員加油打氣,防疫依舊不能鬆懈。首日復工全面備戰,員警到場臨檢,職場須知 【酒店PT 】一個一個得接受體溫測量才能進到店內查核,確保場內所有人都有戴口罩、保持社交距離,落實實名登記制。但疫情過後,驚傳酒店女不回去了。前酒店小姐:「今天才第一天開業而已,然後大家都趕快叫小姐回去,有的人轉正業,可能沒辦法馬上離職,缺小姐一定有。」酒店公關黃先生:「如果沒有(小姐)的話我們可以再應徵啊,沒有其他薪水比酒店高的啦,所以她們也是不得不回來。」很多人想找酒店上班,卻沒有良好的管道,媽咪的部落格算是管道之一!但媽咪要請妳問一下自己確定要來酒店上班了嗎?在酒店上班,必須承受許多許多的不公平與,這表示我還不夠好,而且不誨言的,我也希望收入可以增加!) 雖說酒店上班一個星期的收入等於一個上班族一個月二至三萬的薪水,八大行業絕不是輕鬆的工作很多沒在酒店上班過的都認為酒店上班是個輕鬆的工作、薪水也很多,其實薪水是有比一般工作要來的多沒錯。這陣子酒店休業損失慘重,貼出營業公告中多了一行「應徵酒店女」。受疫情衝擊的還有計程車司機。計程車司機:「差很多啦,以前都有(一天)2、3千,現在1千不到,(這陣子都去做什麼工作?)做鐵工啊。」酒店首日復工,業者全力衝刺拚業績,疫情趨緩之際,酒店開業防疫還是得擺第一。Q:未成年為什麼不能到酒店打工? A:法務部有規定未成年不得進出酒家、特種咖啡茶室、電子遊戲場...等等違反的話最嚴重的罰責是"歇業"或"停業究竟要如何在第一天就上手酒店的工作呢?許多人都認為酒店是個複雜的環境,不過與現實社會的壓力相較,酒店上班家人、男友會知道嗎?酒店兼職懶人包,酒店應徵必須懂的事,閃酒秘訣大公開,面對奧客一次就上手,酒店工作前應該注意的幾件事,這裡沒有天花亂墜的酒店應徵,都會問說到酒店上班要不要簽約。 事實上一般都是不需要簽約。

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台北市大安區忠孝東路四段一間酒店,凌晨3時許發生打架案,30歲張姓男子在酒店門口與人口角衝突,慘被打到頭破血流送醫,由於疫情期間,酒店採實名制,所有進出酒客都有登錄姓名,目前警方根據監視器畫面及登錄資料,已鎖定涉嫌動手的兩名男子,積極追查中。

事發沒多久,張男的友人一度帶約10名黑衣人重回酒店要討公道,要店家教人出來,警方獲報出動30名快打警力,由於現場並無過激動作,警方查抄資料後將這群人驅離,另為防再有意外,也加派警力在酒店外站崗以防滋事。

警方初步調查,張男與朋友到忠孝東路四段地下室的「香閣里拉」酒店消費,結束後友人先離去,最後上來的張男在門口嘔吐,遇上正要從酒店出來的另群酒客,雙方發生口角,隨即大打出手,張男疑遭對方持鈍器攻擊,被打倒在地,頭部有撕裂傷,救護車將他送醫救治,暫無生命危險。

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付費平台「Swag」充斥素人自導自演的性愛影片,片中的直播主全程無碼演出,內容尺度更堪比日本A片,只要粉絲願意付費,就可直接下載觀賞。就有網友納悶,SWAG上的台女作風大膽,連露臉也沒在怕,比起私下接S的酒店小姐,毫不遮掩,「難道swagger有比酒店妹好賺嗎?」「寧可做swagger不去做酒店是什麼心態?」有網友在PTT八卦板發問,「聽說酒店妹月收12萬起跳,差不多是一般小公司副總等級了。最近很流行拍動作片放上swag給人家看,都被看光了,臉也露了,難道swagger有比酒店妹好賺嗎?同樣都是S,酒店妹至少隱密性高,不用動腦剪片想梗,swagger為什麼之前都不做酒店?」其他網友留言「喝酒傷身啊,上床不會怎樣吧,而且應該是跟她的熟人」、「工時長,還要一直吃肝藥vs藝術工作」、「swagger可以不用陪噁男啊」、「因為素質太差,連酒店都不收」、「拍片自己可以爽,酒店只能一直喝傷身」、「Swagger很多都修圖的」、「只有AV淪落去風俗的,風俗到AV是人生升級」。

不少老司機點出差異,直言「跟男友/炮友上床還有錢賺,屌打酒店賣笑」、「酒店你要給醜肥宅摸,Swagger的對象可以自己選,喝太多酒也傷身體,而且日夜生活顛倒」、「一個上夜班,一個隨你喜好上班,當然後者」、「Swagger月薪不只12萬...遠超過」、「那些人出價約一次就是酒店一個月薪水了」。

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2020.06.15付費平台「酒店小姐的基本介紹跟工作內容Swag」充斥素人自導自演的性愛影片,片中的直播主全程無碼演出,時我在酒店上班的日子內容尺度更堪比日本A片,只要粉絲願意付費,就可直接下載觀賞。就有網友納悶不敢來酒店上班-酒店打工的原因,SWAG上的台女作風大膽,連露臉也沒在怕,比起私下酒店上班-酒店兼職-兼差如何達成人生的第一桶金接S的酒店小姐,毫不遮掩,「難道swagger有比酒店妹好賺嗎?」「寧可做swagger不去做酒店是什麼心態?酒店兼差不是一個複雜的工作環境?」有網友在PTT八卦板發問,「聽說職場須知 【酒店PT 】酒店妹月收12萬起跳,差不多是一般小公司副總等級了。最近很流行拍動作片放上swag給人家看,都被看光了,臉也露了,難道swagger有比酒店妹好賺嗎?同樣都是S,酒店妹至少隱密性高,不用動腦剪片想梗,swagger為什麼之前都不做酒店?」其他網友留言「喝酒傷身啊,上床不會怎樣吧,而且應該是跟她的熟人」、「工時長,還要一直吃肝藥vs藝術工作」、「swagger可以不用陪噁男啊」、「因為素質太差,連酒店都不收」、「拍片自己可以爽,酒店只能一直喝傷身」、「Swagger很多都修圖的」、「只有AV淪落去風俗的,風俗到AV是人生升級」。不少老司機點出差異,直言「跟男友/炮友上床還有錢賺,屌打酒店賣笑」、「酒店你要給醜肥宅摸,Swagger的對象可以自己選,喝太多酒也傷身體,而且日夜生活顛倒」、「一個上夜班,一個隨你喜好上班,當然後者」、「Swagger月薪不只12萬...遠超過」、「那些人出價約一次就是酒店一個月薪水了」。

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林森北路是台灣酒店重要商圈,過去上電視多在社會新聞版,實境節目《匠紫也可以》邀請脫口秀小天后龍龍,及Lala (蘇心甯)深入林森北路日式酒店及男公關店,不僅從中認識酒店小姐、男公關的工作實際情況,更談起家人間的心酸歷程。Lala進店前跟劇組人員直呼超級緊張,沒想到一進去脫口而出「原來就跟唱KTV狀況差不多」,現場一次叫4位男公關進房大玩遊戲,一路從烏龜烏龜翹、數字拳開始,一玩之下竟然大獲全勝,讓Lala現場心花怒放,直說第一次玩到這麼嗨。不僅如此,男模們為了逗Lala開心,更現場大跳熱舞起來,輪流面貼面的超近距離接觸,讓Lala現場直接尖叫到想找姐妹淘求救,玩一輪下來後更直呼,有種被捧在手掌心照顧的感覺。脫口秀小天后龍龍為了認識酒店小姐日常,特別情商日式酒店知名媽媽桑席耶娜及藝人夢多分享及訓練,一進門龍龍就先問「小姐賣不賣肉體?」席耶娜立刻嚴肅表示「可以被上的小姐不值錢,現場不准跟客人『喇舌』」,讓龍龍開眼界的表示,原來酒店裡販賣愛情模式的做生意方式太高明了!夢多在這次特別擔任「酒客」,跟龍龍大玩起鹹豬手、擋酒教學,夢多談起酒店,特別提到「早期來台灣,提到酒店時,都被人用異樣眼光來看,但其實在日本,去酒店是一種休閒,不是你們眼中像色狼一樣都是做A的,台日酒店文化真的差很大」,現場更因龍龍的萌呆及反應慢,差點被氣炸,也讓龍龍最後哭著說賺錢真難。

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2020.07.03酒店小姐的基本介紹跟工作內容酒店小姐去酒店上班都一定要出場接s嗎?我在酒店上班的日子告訴你八大行業的真相!
許多來酒店應徵的小姐都一定會詢問,請問: 到酒店上班當酒店小姐就一定要出場陪睡接s嗎?其實現在的酒店已不像大家刻版印象中的不人道。不敢來酒店上班-酒店打工的原因1998年以前到酒店上班的小姐客人看上了酒店小姐想帶小姐出去,酒店小姐上班通常會取什麼名字?店家確實一定會強迫小姐陪睡出場接S。
現在是文明的時代也是Google網路搜尋資訊的年代了! 酒店兼差不是一個複雜的工作環境?酒店的環境變化很大,由以前傳統制度酒店小姐去酒店上班都一定要出場接s嗎?演化改為人性化管理,也就是因為酒店業者增多各家【百家爭鳴】酒店競爭大,各家酒店業者透過【開放自由管理方式】,來招募更多的酒店小姐。
所以現在的酒店也不會像電影/電視連續劇一樣,強制小姐一定要跟客人出場,現在酒店上班將酒店小姐出場的方式改為小姐個人意願,客人要帶小姐出場時會告知小姐要去那裡,只要小姐不願意跟客人出去店家沒人能逼妳,有些酒店只有規定小姐出場只需陪客人到客人想去的地方(例如:吃消夜 續攤 錢櫃 夜店 )當然也會告知雙方(有床的地方不能去 例如:妳家/客人家/旅館/飯店/辦公室)苗頭不對可立即離開。
也不可能要求小姐跟客人出去就一定要接S,當然也會有部份小姐因為想賺取更多的收入,而跟客人私下交易自已接S,所以酒店小姐到酒店上班出場接S完全屬於小姐個人行為,也不必擔心說到酒店上班就一定要出場或接S的。(我們絕對不會去勉強妳,我梁曉尊也不願意強迫小姐 做她不想做的事。)
每個行業都很辛苦!賺錢的工作沒有一份是輕鬆的,但我相信每個人都有她的底線(尤其是女人)。你們將來都是有夢想的是會嫁人的,不需要這麼犧牲。

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2020.08.14不敢來酒店上班-酒店打工的原因
酒店工作不是想做就可以來做,不是隨隨便便只要是女人就可來上班,若不篩選條件讓一堆恐龍醜女在酒店內閒晃的話,到時候嚇死一些酒醉的人客那怎麼辦!我在酒店上班的日子下列這幾個項目讓想上班的應徵者做為參考一...而外型可分為~~身高~體重~臉蛋~年齡來討論,別以為這樣是酒店業者以貌取人
應該是說全天下的男人都是以貌取人。
酒店小姐的基本介紹跟工作內容身高:
到酒店面試時店家不會拿著尺來量妳的身高,也不會訂下標準說少個一公分兩公分就不錄取,有時太高或太矮是看整體的感覺。酒店兼差不是一個複雜的工作環境?但是高和矮~多多少少還是會影嚮到之後上班時客人的喜好和打槍機率。
一般來講大約在155 公分 ~ 172 公分之間多為客人接受,而通常酒店小姐去酒店上班都一定要出場接s嗎?會比較吃香,因為這個身高範圍的小姐穿起高跟鞋來就一般男生來看是最理想的!
至於太高太矮的上班起來就會有些困擾。
如果身高在155公分左右矯小型的就要穿高一點的高跟鞋~前高後高的鞋子最適合
而172公分左右竹竿型的小姐就要穿跟低一點的鞋子~不過不好找就是了!
何況酒店上班是不能穿平底鞋的。
155 公分以下就是太矮,因為太嬌小可能會讓客人感覺像是在跟未年還沒發育完整的女兒互動而太高呢??172公分以上~就太高啦再加上穿高跟鞋可能會讓不高的男人有壓迫感。所以太高或太矮在酒店是沒有加分,反而是個扣分的情況。另外也要強調一點身高的高矮還是要搭配其他條件。 
酒店小姐上班通常會取什麼名字?:體重~還是得配合小姐的身高來看,因為客人看的是整體的感覺過,過肥過瘦都不行,雖然體重過重一點整體看起是可以,不要太誇張加上衣服修飾起來好看的話,其實都會上的不錯的。但是上班後多數店家還是會有意無意的要妳減肥增重的因為~好還要更好~如果要用標準來訂的話那麼大約是43 公斤 ~ 55 公斤左右,這樣的數據當然還是要搭配身高來看!
臉蛋:
總之還是一句整體的感覺最重要臉蛋
這點應該就不用多說了吧臉蛋愈優上班來說愈有利!長得貌美如花的呢!一踏進店裡肯定是忙得沒時間吃飯了吧!至於有些長相抱歉的應徵者也不用擔心因為美或醜是可以用化妝來加強。
因為化妝真的是很神奇的一件事,有些人化起妝正的像是明星一樣,卸妝後呢?真的有醒酒的效果,所以說化妝真的是很重要的一件事,也就是酒店臉蛋的標準也是以化完妝之後的臉蛋為標準。
而臉蛋因為是沒有辦法給一個標準規格的只能說~~~如果妳從小到大又或者平常化完妝之後是有一大堆男人死纏著妳或常有人對妳說妳好正!
那恭禧妳!妳有50%是正妹另外50%可能是講這話的都是在安慰妳
其實也不用想太多啦!化妝和微整的技術現在是很發達的。
年齡:
這東西真的是殘酷!因為歲月不饒人啊!當然超過一定的年齡後,數字愈來愈大競爭力就愈來愈小。
雖然還是有些人是例外的,如果保養的好,看不出實際年齡加上整體給人的感覺一定也OK才行。不然年齡愈大競爭力一定愈小那是不爭的事實,如果要給酒店上班年齡一些數字的話那就18 ~ 35之間~~而 20 ~ 28 之間是最黃金的階段!
為什麼是 18 ~ 35 呢?因為要滿18才算成年~哈哈哈未成年到酒店工作是違法的。而35左右應該算是酒店公關生涯的尾聲了如果這時還想在酒店上班不是說不行,但能賺大錢的時間不多了一定要好好把握才行。28、29、30 歲才想來酒店上班一定要有抱著就是來酒店搶錢的心態,不然幼齒的那麼多不抱著必死的決心怎麼跟她們競爭。至於酒店錄取所在意的還是外型整體的感覺為主,也就是簡單的說要是年近 30 了
還有那外型條件和勇氣來酒店搶錢的話酒店還是熱烈歡迎的因為也是需要有熟女之類的小姐對付一些經驗老道的客人至於~~為何 20 ~ 28 歲為黃金階段呢?因為太小通常心態就是愛玩心不定!加上小朋友的感覺還在,20 ~ 28 歲左右就會比較有女人味的感覺,所以一定要把握這短短幾年的黃金階段全力搶錢喔!
總之~酒店工作時應徵的店家看的外型條件就是指:年齡 臉蛋 身高 體重 這四點
工作內容
既然來酒店工作了那麼工作內容還不能接受的話那怎麼可能會做得好酒店工作,那要做什麼?
有酒精需熬夜~還有客人毛手毛腳的這些都是會遇到是跑不掉的。如果應徵者的外型條件在便服店是無法生存那勢必需要到低級的店上班才能賺錢的話,那麼就必需得要去接受低級店的尺度了。不然外型不佳又想在高級酒店賺錢搞不好連給上班一天的機會都沒有。
而私人因素(家庭、男友...)這點其實跟上班天數、上班時段是習習相關的。
簡單的講就是出勤狀態因為應徵們到八大行業上班是不可能讓家人或男友知情的,
所以就得要偷偷上班~這時如何編理由就很重要了但是問題來了要是上班是想出現就出現不方便出現就消失不見,那倒很簡單但是酒店的上班出勤就是不允許所以~~~私人因素會影響到出勤除非~應徵者能夠把這問題處理得很好要不然必須要把這點考慮進應徵酒店的條件裡面了喔!總之~要想踏入八大行業後,能夠安心專心的賺大錢那麼事前的考慮和安排一定是免不了的。

梁爵 said...

我在八大行業酒店打工午場酒店坐檯的日子
2020.11.08酒店工作-台北酒店專業經紀人特別專欄「酒店打工這裡是變態的包容所。」【酒店小姐】【酒店公關】為什麼做八大?這是許多人遇到酒店兼差酒店小姐最直覺的反應,欠債、還學貸、缺錢花用,或是賺錢養男人等,這些標籤化的理由說對但也不那麼精確,每一個標籤背後的成因如一團團線球,需細細爬梳,才能從線頭拉出一個個盈滿卻又難以黑白劃分的故事。小惠,正是這樣的一個(前)酒店小姐,或者更上道一點來說,她其實是午場的酒店小姐。午場酒店的前身即為舊時代的「摸摸茶」,隨著政府一連串的掃蕩措施而遁入酒店的軀殼,在晚場酒店開張前,充分利用白天的「閒置時段」與店內的「零碎空間」,演化出午場酒店的經營模式。在午場酒店上班中,沒有玻璃杯彼此碰擊的哐啷聲,沒有杯觥交錯下的酒酣耳熟,沒有拚酒自然也無需解酒藥。這裡相較下可說是一片死寂,連進場消費的客層,一吸一呼之間的氣息都顯得衰老。開店時間選在日正當中的中午12點到晚上7點,客層主要粗分三類:退休人士、中小企業主,以及業務,時間自由與彈性是這三類主要客群的最大共識,甚至連年齡也是這三類消費群像的最大交集——5、60歲為主力消費群,70歲以上也常見,反而40歲以下的,對午場酒店小姐來說幾乎是「小鮮肉」等級了。

梁爵 said...

2020.12.20酒店經紀與酒店上班酒店小姐起爭執開槍洩憤。25歲王姓男子酒店工作酒店經紀今天清晨5時許,疑似喝酒續攤與【酒店小姐】【酒店公關】發生口角爭執,涉嫌在北市中山區永盛公園持模擬槍,對空鳴4槍,警方獲報到場發現4枚彈殼,隨即循線在今早8時許逮捕王男,全案將依照社會秩序維護法及槍砲彈藥刀械管制條例裁處。據悉,王姓男子在深夜喝酒續攤,與酒店兼差酒店小姐發生口角,酒店打工酒店小姐難以應付王男,打電話向男朋友求救,自稱是酒店小酒男友約王男在永盛公園見面,但卻遲遲未到,王男疑似為了宣洩情緒,對空鳴了4槍。路過民眾聽到槍聲驚恐報案,警方到場後現場已無人,警方循線找到4枚彈殼,且隨即調閱監視器追查,在今天上午8時許逮到涉案的王姓男子。警方指出,王男持有具有打擊底火功能,足以改造成具有殺傷力槍枝的模擬槍,因無正當理由持有模擬槍,有安全危害之虞,將依照社維法罰緩;另持槍砲彈藥刀械管制條例新修法後,王男並未在12月11日向警察機關報備持有模擬槍,將依法行政裁罰。

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