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I am soo happy to find this blog. Robin steered me...

2007-11-23T03:47:00.000-08:00

I am soo happy to find this blog. Robin steered me towards it.

Like some of you I have been raising food for the local market (for 15 years). I used to do a CSA but I live in an area that is 20 years behind the times and after struggling for 12 years I dropped the CSA but still do farmers markets and have a farm stand/store.

It frightens me how little regard people give to their food. Around here price seems to be the main consideration, not quality. people want cheap overly processed foods. few understand organic, sustainable, local. though with each food recall more and more open their eyes and see that the industrial food stream is neither safe nor sustainable. So they seek out local food sources, me being one of them.

Of course, the newbies too often complain about price (people who are committed locavores do not) or want some pie in the sky such as the 100% vegan pastured chickens or produce watered with only purified water or produce that has never touched plastic. Such ideas will go away once people take a real responsibility toward what they eat, i.e. grow half of their own food instead of expecting some else to feed them.

I occasionally bake bread for fundraisers, where i...

2007-11-20T19:59:00.000-08:00

I occasionally bake bread for fundraisers, where it sells for 3 or 4 dollars a loaf. I'm happy to donate my time for a worthy cause. But I have women (younger than me and no less busy) begging me to bake for them on a regular basis. I have offered to teach them how to bake, and have even posted an entire bread baking tutorial online, but they want me to bake for them and they don't get it when I say "no".

And I stopped raising Araucana chickens because of the ladies that wanted to sort through the cartons to find "their" color blue.

I guess I'm kind of out of it. Today I ventured into the local (20 miles away) for the first time in a long time. It has doubled in size and offers every product imaginable, from politically correct baby wipes to odd menopause remedies to "brain building tea", and it was packed with people buying it all, despite our dismal local economy. Who are all these spoiled people? Why on earth would I want to do business with them?

So now I trade my eggs to neighbors and coworkers for rides to work or other favors. Some of my neighbors who are living on commodity foods trade me cornmeal or or dry milk or bran flakes for eggs and garden produce. (I keep threatening to stockpile the bottles of high fructose corn syrup and make some hootch, but now that corn is so expensive they'll probably stop trying to make poor people eat the stuff.) I'd rather trade food away to people who appreciate it than sell it to people who are turned on by buying my time.

The one crop I keep selling is rhubarb. The people who buy rhubarb tend to be elders with good stories and good recipes who are tickled to get the stuff, and who never dicker about the price.

Amazing to hear that they original optimum size of the suburban lot was "big enough to garden."

higreat article. we've been farming a piece of lan...

2007-11-20T03:44:00.000-08:00

hi
great article. we've been farming a piece of land in portugal now for 4 years, and have found that growing most of our veg, eggs, beans, potatoes is a lot easier than a 9 to 5 job.
we use a permaculture raised bed system, and manage to bottle lots of tomatoes and veg for winter.
to survive, everyone is going to have to get away from seeing themselves as consumers, and start producing either purely for themselves or also to create truly local trading systems. not everyone has the knowledge or ability to grow, but everyone has something they can contribute to the local community - unfortunately mortgages, rent and debt will make it harder for individuals to completely step out of the 'work, buy, consume' worldview - but i am sure most can to some degree, perhaps using weekends to garden?
www.portugalsmallholding.org

My husband and I have expanded our garden to 500 s...

2007-11-20T00:36:00.000-08:00

My husband and I have expanded our garden to 500 square feet, not including patches with blueberries, blackberries, two pear trees, one cherry tree, two apple trees, a crabapple tree, three scrub oak trees that produce acorns (which you can eat!) and rugosa roses for rose hips. We plan on putting a couple more beds in next spring and currently have a mini greenhouse with lots of winter greens growing. We live in an urban neighborhood in Denver. It is possible to grow most of your food in the city, whether it is with your own yard or through a neighborhood gardening program. Thanks Sharon for encouraging such a great movement.

There are about 3,000 sq. mi. of golf courses in t...

2007-11-19T13:27:00.000-08:00

There are about 3,000 sq. mi. of golf courses in the country, admittedly not a lot of land in a continental nation, but hey, they're where the people are (often in folks' back yards). We can hope that this land will not be paved over between now and when we need it.

Wow, great to read about all the folks here who ar...

2007-11-19T07:38:00.000-08:00

Wow, great to read about all the folks here who are gardening or who will be gardening!

Kerri, I think what you're doing is awesome -- and smart to bring that bread to work and garner some converts that way, for whatever local foods are available in Alaska.

Brian M, it's true that lots of people don't have growing skills and that there are going to be some rough transitions (more in some places than others). But the more people who are able to grow gardens, the better. It means that more people will transition more easily than others. It means that some latecomers have a slightly higher chance to learn from some of the folks who are growing food now. And even for those who end up having to move, they may end up somewhere where their knowledge of useful skills may give them a better chance to fit in to their new location. It isn't a cure-all by any means, just one of many things that will help to soften the transition overall.

For the newer gardeners, I'd suggest mulching your gardens. You can use grass clippings once they're dry, or you can use straw/hay from a local farm if there's one anywhere near you. It helps keep the weeds down so you don't have to do as much maintenance, and helps retain moisture so you don't have to water as much. Also keeps the soil from being blown away by the wind (and whatever CO2 is currently stored in the soil goes into the air when that happens). Also, the bottom layer of the mulch will decompose into the soil, so it feeds nutrients into the soil for you. My FIL got into this some years back when I gave him a copy of Ruth Stout's No Work Garden book. He doesn't even clear his garden anymore, just cuts down whatever plant matter is left at the end of the season and lets it lie on the ground over the winter. Then in the spring he pokes a hole in the ground for each seed/plant, and adds some more chaff wherever there's a thin spot in the garden. If you're buying hay, ask for 2nd cutting as it's cheaper. Or, bring a big garbage bag or two with you, and ask the farmer if you could maybe clean up some of the chaff off the barn floors -- you might even get it for free :) I use the chaff because hay does shake loose from the bales regularly, and piles up on the floor, so it needs to be removed anyway.

On permaculture/edible forest gardening, I don't have much experience at all. But it sounds like a good option if you have enough land to grow trees. At the farm here we have a wooded hillside (where the wood for the furnace comes from - yes, it's a proper furnace, not a short stack), I'm hoping to start planting some berry bushes and other edibles in it. No doubt the deer and bear will get some of it, but if I plant enough, we'll get some as well. And I won't have to do much maintenance.

I'm also thinking about the liquid fertilizer thing for next year... I don't know if I dare share what that is with my in-laws, but I'd like to try it anyway (for the new folks, it's human urine that is mixed one part urine to 10 parts water). We don't use chem fertilizers but the soil could stand to get some improvement, and that would give them a lot of what they need -- and for free!

Some people might be interested in container gardening (like if you have a lot of concrete on the property and can't take it up), and/or square foot gardening -- both of which tend to also have less weeding to do.

Sharon, are there any web sites out there that have a list of good starter crops and how to grow them? I have a gardening book that lists a bunch of food crops by difficulty (how much fertilizer/care they need), but I don't know if there are web sites that do this. If I ever find the book again (it's in a box, somewhere...), I'll post the info on it.

I am often miffed by people expecting you to want ...

2007-11-18T16:27:00.000-08:00

I am often miffed by people expecting you to want to sell off your carefully grown produce. Tens of kilos of root crops may seem like a lot but if you are actually cooking with it on a regular basis it doesnt go all that far. And why would I sell my produce, just to use the money to buy something else? (probably of a lower or dubious quality). The amount of time spent harvesting a lot of fiddly crops like peas and beans is highly under appreciated as well.

Sharon, thank you for this post. I've been in the...

2007-11-18T05:28:00.000-08:00

Sharon, thank you for this post. I've been in the wilderness, garnering very strange looks, for the last thirty years when I've adamantly stated to all and sundry that it is criminal to build new homes without gardens. Because, given the 50-year plus lifetime of a modern home, it has to be built with an eye to its usefulness 50 years down the line. Nothing's so obvious as that which we do not wish to see.

Phil

We're there. We've been "farming" our quarter acr...

2007-11-17T21:49:00.000-08:00

We're there. We've been "farming" our quarter acre since we purchased our home in 1997, although it wasn't until this year that we actually started looking toward sustainability with our homestead.

But I would never call myself a "farmer." I'm not. I consider myself a homesteader and in the great tradition of those who first settled the extreme northeast, where I make my home, I "farm" to feed my family, but I never intend to earn money from what I grow. Selfishly, that food is for us to consume, and the "work" I do as a freelancer earns the money I need to pay bills.

I'm not particularly talented or experienced in gardening, either, and everything I know about gardening, raising livestock, soil building and landscaping I've learned within the last ten years. It makes me sad to hear things like "I don't have time, because I have a job," and frankly, it's a little insulting, because I have a job, too. I own a business that has nothing to do with farming or gardening or homesteading. I can't even do my "job" outside, as it requires my computer. But I manage to find the time to grow food, tend my chickens, can what I've grown, bake all of my own bread ... and homeschool, too.

On top of all of that, I'm lazy and disorganized. But somehow I manage to get it done, and truly, if I can manage to homestead my quarter acre, anyone can!

http://www.yourbackyardfarmer.com/These women star...

2007-11-17T18:42:00.000-08:00

http://www.yourbackyardfarmer.com/
These women started a CSA in Portland OR to address small-scale gardening - they come to your property and plant, tend and harvest in your backyard. They leave the veggies on your back step and are trying charge similar fees as a farmed CSA, based on how big a plot you would like them to tend.
I think it's a really interesting model: they saved on the start-up cost of buying a farm, and it works for urban sized backyards/too busy lives.

Inspiring post, Sharon. I am in and I think we al...

2007-11-17T15:55:00.000-08:00

Inspiring post, Sharon. I am in and I think we all need to be. I'm finding it very enjoyable and easy to add more and more "food" space into my yard - which used to just be a bare expanse of lawn. Doing so helps put us back in touch with where our food comes from and "grounds" us - both literally and figuratively.

Plus, the kids LOVE it! My boys stripped the snap pea vines of snap peas quicker than they could grow and my 5 year old pronounced "These are better than the ones at the farmer's market mom. Do you know why? They are fresher!" He's right. The food does taste better than the farmer's market and the farmer's market food blows the big box produce out of the water. :)

I'd love to see every house on my street with a victory garden in front. :)

I love and respect my CSA farmers, they have inspi...

2007-11-17T05:51:00.000-08:00

I love and respect my CSA farmers, they have inspired me to grow my own food that is as beautiful as what they grow.
I have dug in my heels and have learned to love my rocky patch of a yard. Where I live, it is all about building up your soil, that's this winters reading project.
I find that many people have resources and ideas to share, gardening tips, a few chickens ( a friend is babysitting 5 lovely hens for me untill I can build a coop).
Many people know someone who grows their own food in a little yard and brings in the extras to share at the office. There are hidden gems and nuggets of knowledge everywhere when you just start up a conversation with someone, waiting in line at the post office. I still think times will be hard for many, but I am always happy to talk to someone that has always grown their own food.

Wonderful post! I have grown veggies on balconies...

2007-11-16T18:49:00.000-08:00

Wonderful post! I have grown veggies on balconies when living in an apartment, and I've had large vegetable/fruit gardens on city lots. It takes very little time to maintain a small vegetable garden and a few small fruit trees and/or some berries, a little more time to grow enough to preserve foods. I think because I do enjoy the process of gardening, I don't find it hard to find time for it at all. Of course, I don't have the tidiest of garden all the time either :)

I am not much of a gardener...well, I should say t...

2007-11-16T18:03:00.000-08:00

I am not much of a gardener...well, I should say that I am a beginning gardener and plan to really expand my garden in the next year as time and deer fencing allows. For now, I am having a great time learning to eat the WEEDS that are all around me: dandelion, mallow, chickweed, plaintain, dock, purslaine...they just grow, without any water or care...they are delicious, high in many vitamins and trace minerals and abundant. I encourage everyone to find out about the wild things growing around you and learn how to use them! My goal is one wild meal a day without over harvesting any one area. Weeds grow through everything including drought and odd weather, and don't ask for any fancy fertilizer or care. You just have to find them, and well...I always ask their permission before I pick them:)but that's just me. If you don't have any of these wonderful plants growing around you, I suggest you plant a few. It's worth it.

Does anyone have any experience with Edible Forest...

2007-11-16T16:11:00.001-08:00

Does anyone have any experience with Edible Forest Gardening?"

The link explains it much better, but I'll say here that the emphasis is in imitating the forest ecosystem in order to maximize the total yield of the plot of ground. Fruit and nut trees and shrubs, and perennial and self-seeding vegetables are preferred. Low maintenance is a principle goal. For example, you never dig in the soil except the initial planting and to remove root vegetables. You don't try to maximize the output of any one plant, but of the plot as a whole. Grow plants that attract beneficial insects, etc.

Does anyone have any experience or comments about this sort of gardening approach?

Unfortunately going green in our materialistic soc...

2007-11-16T16:11:00.000-08:00

Unfortunately going green in our materialistic society still means consuming products that take much energy and raw materials to produce and which ultimately rape the planet. It seems like sustainable endeavors in our culture tend to be hijacked by the profit-crazed private sector with their focus on economic growth, in turn not allowing us to quit coveting stuff.

We should realize that simplifying one's lifestyle and even reducing consumption of high tech "earth friendly" products is the true meaning of going green.

Less of everything is more.

~Vegan/Leaving So. FL

Lovely post. We have managed to very quickly turn...

2007-11-16T15:45:00.000-08:00

Lovely post. We have managed to very quickly turn a barren piece of land into food enough to provide more than 3/4 of our diet, so it can be done, and we also believe it will be necessary.

One thing to add, though, in response to:

"If you want your state or region to be able to feed itself, you need to be at the forefront of this, working to transform existing open land into gardens, and using the bit land you own, if you own any, optimally."

My husband and I don't own any land - we are renters, and probably will be for quite some time (student loan debt, low incomes, and not wanting to add to our debt in a bloated housing market). But we still grow our own food. Even in an urban apartment, we grew some of our food. Renters can - and should - be a part of this solution!

People don't realize how much they can grow on a s...

2007-11-16T14:25:00.000-08:00

People don't realize how much they can grow on a small lot. My family of four lives on 1/4 of an acre and we grow a lot of our food. We produce all of our meat, dairy, and eggs. Most of our veggies. And some of our grains. We even have a little pasture.

We have 6 hens and 1 rooster for meat and eggs. Chickens ARE bug eaters asking them not to is like asking kids not to play. It makes them happy! And it keeps the bugs out of the garden.

We keep 4 mini goats. Three females one male. that does not include babies. They provide us with milk cheese, butter etc. Also meat and cooking fat (lard). Goat tallow which is not good for cooking makes great candles.

We have only been on this property for a few years, so the garden doesn't produce as well as we would like. But I put up 200lb of each potatoes and tomatoes this year. As well as tons of zucchini, eggplant, onions, garlic, etc... We have a lot of concrete that I hope to reclaim next year.

We have a short growing season(90 days or less) so the summer veggies are gone by August and I plant turnips, kale, and winter wheat. The turnips and kale are mainly for the animals (they love them). The wheat can be harvested as grass for animal feed throughout winter. And if you don't over harvest you get a grain crop by mid June. Which is my frost free date any way. Oh I can't forget the garlic, yum.

I also planted 2000 sf to pasture grass and mulberry trees. I was already able to harvest a good amount of grass for the goats and chickens the first year. The mulberry trees are also for animal feed (once they are big enough).

We have no neighbors so we can get away with having stinky billy goats and noisy roosters. But the idea is the same. Say instead of a lawn and a dog, you have a pasture and a dairy goat. Or just get a garden going. It doesn't take any more time to tend than mowing that same patch of lawn. What could be easier than dwarf or mini fruit trees (they only make a mess if you don't harvest the fruit). You getting the picture?

SS

Brian M wrote:Our economics is in so many unsustai...

2007-11-16T14:22:00.000-08:00

Brian M wrote:
Our economics is in so many unsustainable squeezes. There are many things that any family can do to lower their dependence on others, if they have the skills and the time. Growing food on you own small family lots doesn't just take work, it also takes skills and time. But America's gardening skills are badly eroded, and more importantly Americans work much longer hours than in the past. Indeed, many families need two money-incomes to make their ends meet and keep their land.

The professional farmers can't afford to grow potatoes in high property-value markets. But the households may not be able to either, because they also need to devote too much of their time to cash-jobs to continue to afford the land. Americans are squeezed for money AND time.

I am going to somewhat disagree. I wasn't born knowing how to grow veggies although I did learn fairly young. I did not however learn about chickens until 10 years ago when I aquired about 6. I read and observed.

I've learned things about growing via repetition.

Are many people in a tough situation landwise yes. But I bet there is more land available than they think similar to the Asian city gardens mentioned.

Actually IMHO potatoes in ones backyard maybe one of the easier things to grow. Trench throw in some seed potatoes, cover, wait, cover a bit more, wait etc. Apply water and fert. as needed. Weed a bit Dig. Tomatoes can be as easy.
Keep it to a managable scale few plants, learn, expand.

I think a small plot 12 x 6 ish could be managed simply working a few hours on ones day off. Throw in a quick tour on the way out the door to work (outrageously enjoyable) and bam veggies for the table.

A few chickens say 3 aren't any harder than a dog.

Beth Green Hill Farm

"...underneath the message of green consumerism is...

2007-11-16T12:55:00.000-08:00

"...underneath the message of green consumerism is an enormous lie - that our major job in the world is to open our mouths like baby birds and wait for markets to feed us a big, juicy, environmentally-friendly worm. The simple truth is that none of us are served by being told that we don't have to do anything. In fact, I wonder sometimes if that isn't the reason that Americans suffer so much from depression, anxiety and other disorders - because we are told that we are powerless, and thus not obliged to contribute anything so very often. That is, I wonder if the absolute most destructive thing we can do for people is to lie to them and say "just buy better stuff" rather than "get to work."

THANK YOU.

This is a beautifully written call to arms, and th...

2007-11-16T12:37:00.000-08:00

This is a beautifully written call to arms, and the comments you attract are thoughtful and thought-provoking. (I linked over here from your beautifully written comment on No Impact Man cautioning him not to downplay the sacrifice true environmentalism demands. Oddly, I find your perspective invigorating rather than discouraging.)

Small victory, but you've motivated me to sign up for a community gardening plot for next spring, too. (And to investigate whether there's anything I can do with my shady back patio. My "garden" this year was pretty crummy.)