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2009-03-09T22:44:00.000-07:00

Aren't fava beans a cover crop? They function like...

2007-07-17T00:13:00.000-07:00

Aren't fava beans a cover crop? They function like this here in No. Cal. Public organic gardens often grow fava beans that nobody harvests. My Lebanese uncle couldn't restrain himself - he hadn't eaten fresh green favas in 20 years - and he filled his pockets on a visit to the Bay Area one May. Anyway. People plant favas and then I guess they just cut 'em down and use em for mulch, 'cause hardly anybody is eating them.

I think I'm going to plant favas in my front yard this fall. Nobody will care, this is Oakland, we have a full roster of permaculture classes at the community college up the hill.

One plant that makes great salad greens all winter...

2007-07-06T07:18:00.000-07:00

One plant that makes great salad greens all winter is mache (also called corn salad). It survives all winter in here in central Virginia with no cover. Plant a fair amount as the leaves are somewhat small. Salad plants will grow short and low in the winter and then grow more verticle as the weather warms if not covered with a cold frame. If you cover your plants with row cover or frost blanket they will be protected a few degrees cooler than normal. If you grow under old window frames they will be warmed up enough to grow significantly instead of just maintaining (definitely don't use painted frames, and look for storm window glass as it is tempered and less dangerous.) We planted our spinach very late last year and it did not really mature until December. We were still harvesting lots of leaves through May from the same plants. They only looked bad in February when a cold snap hit. They weren't covered. Part of the trick is to plant a lot so that when growth slows down or stops for a while you can still pick some leaves without harming any individual plant too much. Then when you get a warm spell they recover. I have to agree the cold weather makes the vegetables much sweeter. We pulled our carrots in December and they were seriously sweet, the spinach was as well. Tat soi grew pretty well over the winter but did best under the old windows we use for coldframes. A really hard frost will kill it. The windows cost nothing (check for throwaways at places that do replacement windows) and are portable so can be put away when no longer needed. They can rest on small boards and be jacked up on one side to tilt toward the sun. If needed the space on the sides can be stuffed with a little straw or hay to keep the heat in. Just remember to remove it on warm days. Other winter hardy greens I've heard about include miner's lettuce and Good King Henry. I haven't tried these yet, but Bountiful Gardens catalog lists them. No bugs! I love winter gardening! Sharon, thanks for the info. on buckwheat greens.

Wonderful information. I'm really working on the ...

2007-07-06T07:06:00.000-07:00

Wonderful information. I'm really working on the health of my soil this year and didn't plant anything except cover crops. I'm really regretting it though, with nothing to harvest.

I'm definitely going to be doing some fall planting. I've already got the book you mentioned on hold at the library.

Thanks for the info.

Sharon, I'm having trouble visualizing the coldfra...

2007-07-05T13:53:00.000-07:00

Sharon, I'm having trouble visualizing the coldframe made with straw bales that you mention. Are the bales arranged around the perimeter of a bed with the windowframe over the top? If and when you have a moment to clarify....would you mind terribly? I'm glad to have read your article, as it puts everything down very concisely for a novice veggie gardener like myself. Thank you :-)

One way to tell if you can still plant something i...

2007-07-05T13:07:00.000-07:00

One way to tell if you can still plant something is the days to maturity listed on seed pack (some). My first frost is usually first week in Oct although its been the second week for two years.
So I have approx 90+ days left.
Anything say approx 70 days or less will be great say bok choi, carrots etc.
But if I have seeds and space I might try a 90 something dry corn(actually planted it not sure if chickens left any seeds to grow fencing not great).
Beth

Thank you for this information and inpiration! I ...

2007-07-05T10:48:00.000-07:00

Thank you for this information and inpiration! I am a first year Zone 3 gardener and I will definitely look up the book you mentioned.

I have never tried this, don't know if it could be...

2007-07-05T09:14:00.000-07:00

I have never tried this, don't know if it could be done, but what about reflected light to extend the growing season?

MEA

How timely Sharon! I was just googling around to ...

2007-07-05T08:35:00.000-07:00

How timely Sharon!

I was just googling around to find out what I could plant for the fall. I'm a first year gardener in zone 5, and it's all new to me.