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Is there any reason to think they would not stoop ...

2009-08-18T06:54:45.658-07:00

Is there any reason to think they would not stoop to this tactic in the face of a situation which threatens to completely undermine corporate control of our society?--------------------------------------

On the other hand, I find that it is a long-term p...

2009-08-18T06:51:15.794-07:00

On the other hand, I find that it is a long-term project adjusting my habits to turn this into reality.---------- ---------------------------when we're traveling by auto is patently false. so when driving, we have to add the beef and the oil together.

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2007-08-28T08:34:00.000-07:00

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Kiashu- "either incompetent or dishonest" sigh. I...

2007-08-15T16:24:00.000-07:00

Kiashu- "either incompetent or dishonest"

sigh. I'm afraid we cannot rule out either. I ran onto this article a bit ago, in the NYT. Myth/Math

Your understanding of statisics seems good. I was appalled, aghast, horrified at the total incompetence regarding statistics reflected in this article. They've got math professors spouting nonsense. Basically they're stating that median numbers from 2 different populations must be equal, because the populations are almost equal. Um. What? This kind of loud incompetence among people with education seems to be increasing. Or I'm just getting older and crankier, who knows. :-)

Sharon- bless you for taking the time to parse and...

2007-08-15T15:17:00.000-07:00

Sharon- bless you for taking the time to parse and dissect this nonsense. It would drive me crazy to have to; and it IS valuable to everyone to have this kind of detailed response. Goodall's "anaysis" is woefully incomplete and warped; and there's been a lot of that going around. It won't go away, alas. Thanks!

Does it matter? 2.76 kcal/g would be 276 kcal for ...

2007-08-08T22:45:00.000-07:00

Does it matter? 2.76 kcal/g would be 276 kcal for 100g - rather than the 180kcal that drongo Goodall gave us.

It's the most minor point. The major point is that he compares

Apples (running costs) with
Oranges (production costs + running costs)

and unsurprisingly concludes that apples are cheaper than oranges.

Whether the oranges typically have 180, 276 or 500 kcal is really not that important. He's still comparing apples and oranges. Which makes him either incompetent or dishonest.

Kiashu,Not sure where you are getting your beef ca...

2007-08-07T09:52:00.000-07:00

Kiashu,

Not sure where you are getting your beef calorie figures. Check this out:
http://www.hoptechno.com/nightcrew/sante7000/sante7000_search.cfm
and enter "Ground beef, raw" (22% fat)
It gets you 2.76 kcals/gram for raw meat, 2.86 for cooked.

Richard

Hey Kyle - Good point about the calories of beef. ...

2007-08-07T06:40:00.000-07:00

Hey Kyle - Good point about the calories of beef. And I didn't see your article until after I wrote this one - too bad, or I would have just linked to you ;-).

Sharon

My first point is that even with his selective pic...

2007-08-06T23:42:00.000-07:00

My first point is that even with his selective picking of figures, his figures are wrong. 180 kilocalories for 100 grammes of beef? No. Pure protein is 4 kcal/g, and pure fat 8 kcal/g, for an average for most meat of about 5 kcal/g, or 500 kcal for 100g. So in fact 36g of beef would be required to give you 180kcal, generating 1.3kg of emissions. This starts to look comparable to his 0.9kg of emissions from the car, especially when we add in the emissions from the car's production, as you noted.

Secondly, are you plagiarising me, or do we just have the same way of thinking? See here. ;)

I am beginning to take a less sanguine view of wri...

2007-08-06T22:48:00.000-07:00

I am beginning to take a less sanguine view of writings like this one by Goodall. I think that he is part and parcel of the effort by corporate interests to convince the populace to do nothing about global warming.

Many studies have shown that when people are confused as to the right action to take by conflicting advice, they usually opt to do nothing. And that's somewhat reasonable if they are not in a position to determine which set of advice is actually true.

When someone who styles himself a "Green" environmentalist publishes a tract as full of holes as this one by Goodall and as slanted toward the status quo, one has to look particularly hard at his motivation.

Even if he is sincere, the effect of his propagandizing is such that he might as well be in the employ of ExxonMobil, just like most of the other global warming deniers.

Corporate and government interests have been placing "agents provocateur" inside movements for change for at least the last 100 years. Is there any reason to think they would not stoop to this tactic in the face of a situation which threatens to completely undermine corporate control of our society?

Sharon, I cannot tell you how valuable your writin...

2007-08-06T19:47:00.000-07:00

Sharon, I cannot tell you how valuable your writing is to me personally and to the cause. You have an amazing ability to synthesize information, see clearly to the point of a problem, and formulate concrete, sensible solutions, in a way that I can't even dream of. I look forward to each time you pop up in Bloglines, because every time you write, I learn new things.

Did you send your post or link to the author of this thing? Sounds like he could use it.

--Shana in Missouri

Tiny comment about railroad - even to build one it...

2007-08-06T18:27:00.000-07:00

Tiny comment about railroad - even to build one it can't be much more expensive than building a _real_ road. Then maintaining it in $/kilo of freight terms has got to be a LOT cheaper.
I would not bother with comparing energy of building a steel road to a concrete one - the obvious durability of rail makes it unnecessary.

And if you were to "give" people landrovers to dispense with building roads, that would be just lovely - all the land turned into mud as they go around the mud they made yesterday :)

As I read Sharon's writings and others on the inte...

2007-08-06T12:59:00.000-07:00

As I read Sharon's writings and others on the internet about global warming and peak oil, I find myself reflecting on what would be a good use of my energy stores at the moment. I am trying to wean myself off of going to the gym. If I am going to burn 300 calories at the gym, why not use that energy and time to de-carbonize another of my regular activities? I certainly could use the exercise. It is that kind of win-win synergy that would help me pursue the "theory of anyway."
http://www.energybulletin.net/25115.html I have figured out some of these activities and do many of them.

On the other hand, I find that it is a long-term project adjusting my habits to turn this into reality. Some of this is due to old habits dying hard, some can be attributed to not wanting to start something that will at some point be come mandatory at inconvenient times (e.g. my nearly effortless backyard fruit trees versus a nearly non-existent vegetable garden). Unfortunately, another part of me is just self-conscious about appearing so different from my suburban neighbors.

Still, it is essential that I not only discover but also engage in these synergistic activities because by winning on multiple fronts, I will keep them going instead of pushing myself out of guilt. Letting someone else constrain the choices in absurd ways that Sharon cited is the opposite strategy. We cannot afford to let others define the debate this way.

Richard

How much CO2 is released when creating all those s...

2007-08-06T10:40:00.000-07:00

How much CO2 is released when creating all those straw men?

Squrrl, you are absolutely right about the lentils...

2007-08-06T10:33:00.000-07:00

Squrrl, you are absolutely right about the lentils, of course. I love them - I just think Goodall's construction "cereals and pulses" gives the vision that food has to be bland and boring. But you are right about lentil soup being wonderful!

Sharon

And of course it should go without saying that for...

2007-08-06T09:53:00.000-07:00

And of course it should go without saying that for a disturbingly high proportion of us, we need that extra exercise WITHOUT increasing our caloric intake! If someone is so physiologically well-balanced that their walk requires them to increase their food intake, then he ought to also factor in the exercise time/equipment/cost that person is obviously spending to remain physically healthy, and then show the savings of such expense by walking for errands instead.

Agreed, agreed, and agreed!Only one complaint--wha...

2007-08-06T09:49:00.000-07:00

Agreed, agreed, and agreed!

Only one complaint--what's with the knock on lentils?! Everyone always loves my lentil soup, frequently including people who had never really eaten lentils before. Lentils rule!

Just sayin'. ;-)

So while driving, our metabolism ceases? We stop b...

2007-08-06T08:37:00.000-07:00

So while driving, our metabolism ceases? We stop breathing? Our food stops digesting? We become lifeless zombies until we get out of our autos?

Well, maybe there's truth to it.

But his argument that you can subtract the beef when we're traveling by auto is patently false. so when driving, we have to add the beef and the oil together.